DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 since a few days after you guys helped me solve some issue's i experience a drop in framerates after the test flight where i had framerates in vc in the high 20's and outside in the high 50's i now get 8-13 in the vc and 23-35 outside, my pc specs are high enough for a far better pormance and higher setting than this. Im starting to think i made a mistake switching from fsx se (where everything with the aerosoft busses was perfectly running hence why i bought the same aerosoft busses bundle for p3d4.5) to p3d4.5 where since i switched have one issue after another ill post screenshots of framerate and settings did the shader folder deletion too and disabled hdr lighting all no effect Amd ryzen 5 2600 3.9 ghz Gigabyte Aorus b450 motherboard Gigabyte gtx 1660 6gb graphics card Vengeance 16 gb ram 500gb ssd m.2 hdd Addons nl2000 eheh,ehrd and scenery Gsx and expansion 2 Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4161 Posted July 14, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 14, 2019 So, during your test flight frame rate was OK, but now you have suddenly low fps? Then something must have changed on your system, like changed settings, othr software interfering etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 only thing changed was airplane livery a320 cfm magnum livery but after the problem occurd there try the a321cfm with same results. testflight was with amsterdam airlines livery a320 iae regards DUTCh1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Are you using add on liveries done by third parties? If so, how are the frame rates using our liveries (the ones that came with the product) verse add on liveries done by third parties? Also, I would change your frame rates to unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 framerates with aerosoft livery are the same last flight i used aerosoft a321 proffesional airbus livery amsterdam airlines and magnum livery are from holger but originally for fsx do work great on p3d4.5 tho will try the framerate to unlimited regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 better but still low vc 18-20 outside 30 - 40 fps kind regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Which software do you use for AI Aircraft, and which weather textures and associated resolutions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Only the aerosoft airbus professional bundle no other addons or ai airplanes no weather textures just gsx and nl 2000 eindhoven eheh rotterdam ehrd south holland and noord braband those are two county's in the netherlands Kind regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Then I would say you're doing pretty darned good with your processor base being only 3.4GHz and Turbo at 3.9GHz. If you notice frame rates getting worse during a flight then that might well be due to Heat issues, and you might consider adding a water cooler. The sweet spot for running P3Dv4+ with payware airliner is a processor running at 4.2 to 4.3GHz. I run mine at locked at 4.5GHz. Best wishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 So even tho i got a new pc with specs well above p3d4.5 requirements i am sill too low in pc specs even tho i had higher framerates before 2 updates ago when all trouble started,not saying the updates are the problem maybe im doing something wrong too im not a computer expert so ill probably do things wrong too install wise or settings, well guess the A330 will not be a plane for me if my new system cant handle the A318/321 it will most certainly not be able to handle the A330,too bad was really looking forward to the big bus even put aside some money for it so i could buy it the moment it got released.i dont like boeings but the 747-400 or tripple 7 will have to do. kind regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Querer 74 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 20 hours ago, DUTCH1963 said: since a few days after you guys helped me solve some issue's i experience a drop in framerates after the test flight... Well, then it would be utterly interesting, what "issue" this other guys helped to solve, no? Could you link to the other thread or at least explain what was changed? I am 100% sure it is related to this, but without knowing what was done back then, it will be difficult to give you any useful support... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Querer said: Well, then it would be utterly interesting, what "issue" this other guys helped to solve, no? Could you link to the other thread or at least explain what was changed? I am 100% sure it is related to this, but without knowing what was done back then, it will be difficult to give you any useful support... these fixes actually worked only some minor sounds and checklist problems remained regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshob 23 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Hi, I would suggest to remove all type of traffic settings (move all sliders to 0) first and check what fps you will get. It is not a secret that P3D is very sensitive to settings / hardware and getting a proper combination is a relatively time consuming (reading) works. You may wish to use this one as a guide: https://www.nmgsimulations.co.za/support/kb/faq.php?id=3 I am using a similar configuration with lots of other addons and my worst fps is around 30. The thing is that every machine is different and there is no universal painkiller for sorting fps issues. You have to be patient and work hard on try-error principal till getting a satisfactory result. However, everything depends on what your expectations and willingness for compromises are... Happy landings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 could it be that the install folder is problem of my low framerates? current install folder of p3d4.5 is c/program files/lockheed martin/p3d4 current airbus folder is c/documents/aerosoft with kind regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, DUTCH1963 said: could it be that the install folder is problem of my low framerates? current install folder of p3d4.5 is c/program files/lockheed martin/p3d4 current airbus folder is c/documents/aerosoft with kind regards DUTCH1963 No sir, that's the same location my P3D is installed to (since I Beta test all sorts of software). Have you tried clearing your P3D Shaders and running Unlimited Frame Rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, DaveCT2003 said: Have you tried clearing your P3D Shaders and running Unlimited Frame Rates? yes i did multiple times and its running on unlimited all sliders are at low kind regards DUTCH1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Then it's likely your processor speed. The sweet spot for running high-end aircraft with payware scenery is around 4.3GHz, and I run my processor with all 4 cores locked at 4.5GHz (of course one should use a water cooler when doing that). Any third party shaders in use? What other software is being run when the sim is running? Anything that reads and in particular writes to the harddrive while the sim is running will affect the frame rates. Windows Update can really affect things. Something to try is making a flight from a default airport to another default airport, and AI Traffic (vehicles, aircraft, etc.) turned off, and then see what your frame rates are like. Also, going with an SSD would help out significantly if you're not already using on, and the migration software that comes with many SSDs will prevent you from having o reinstall things. I use Samsung SSDs and the drives and the software is terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 this is my rig no other shaders or addons except for pmdg 747-400 qots 2 wich is new and installed after the framerate problems began. Amd ryzen 5 2600 3.9 ghz Gigabyte Aorus b450 motherboard Gigabyte gtx 1660 6gb graphics card Vengeance 16 gb ram 500gb ssd m.2 hdd Addons nl2000 eheh,ehrd and scenery Gsx and expansion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 How are your processor temps before and while P3D is running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 How can i see the temps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenrw 59 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just wondering ...have you installed the P3d 4.5 hot fix? (just need the client installed) as there was some problems with FPS for some users when 4.5 was first brought out so needed a fix ..if you have this setting UIHardwareAcceleration=True under [USERINTERFACE] then you have the hot fix and must be something else , i limit my FPS to 30/32 ish and add this setting FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.01 to my CFG file under [MAIN] for a slight FPS boost. I hope you get it fixed mate and blue skys to you. Also try a flight with all your AI/road traffic and airport traffic turned off ...it could just be that. Rich 5 minutes ago, DUTCH1963 said: How can i see the temps? MSI afterburner is a good tool for that as it displays the info on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, DUTCH1963 said: How can i see the temps? The best software I know (and use) is https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html But there is plenty of different freeware software you can use... Google will lead you straight to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 these are screenshots with and without p3d4 running with airbus pro a321 airbus home livery cfm engines framerates at 12 -16 fps in vc screenshots from hw monitor greetings DUTCH1963 Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 You forgot to reset the maximum temps in between screen shots, but nothing looks out of order to me. So I don't believe it's temp related. How does it run with all graphics sliders set to minimum in P3D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTCH1963 3 Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Please login to display this image. with sliders on minimum then buildings dissappear but 60 fps or higher but very unrealistic sliders of world like buildings and scenery to medium and normal fps drops to 14 fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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