Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Hi I never found a valid route form LSZH to LFPG that goes above FL180. PFPX calculates the route via the airway T51 that is limited to FL195. So the maximnum Flight Level will be FL180. That's not realistic. And if i choose a direct insetad of the airway T51 form VEBIT to LASUN, i got a lot of messages from PFPX saying that my route is not valid. Can someone help me find a valid route that goes above FL180? In real planes are flying beetween FL280 and FL320 on this route. Thanks and cheers Franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel_V 14 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Franz008 said: Hi I never found a valid route form LSZH to LFPG that goes above FL180. PFPX calculates the route via the airway T51 that is limited to FL195. So the maximnum Flight Level will be FL180. That's not realistic. And if i choose a direct insetad of the airway T51 form VEBIT to LASUN, i got a lot of messages from PFPX saying that my route is not valid. Can someone help me find a valid route that goes above FL180? In real planes are flying beetween FL280 and FL320 on this route. Thanks and cheers Franz Could you use this? LSZH SID VEBIT DCT HOC UL613 RLP STAR LFPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Thanks. No it get a lot of messages and no correct validation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 The route is Level Capped by EuroControl at FL195 via RLP and is applied by PFPX REF: LF4232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Here you go: (FPL-DAERA-IS -B738/M-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1 -LSZH1845 -N0398F320 VEBIT T51 LASUN UN176 MOROK UL856 GIVRI UM982 TINIL -LFPG0050 LFPB -PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/190519 REG/DAERA EET/LSAC0007 LFFF0012 RVR/75 OPR/// PER/C -E/0145) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 And what exactly do i enter into PFPX? Because this route is not validated by PFPX and still limit the altitude to FL180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Override the FL195 capping (pale digits) in the ROUTE section Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Yes but it doesnt change the fact that when computing this flight, PFPX limits it to FL180/FL195. So i cannot know how much fuel i need if i perform it at FL280 or FL320. And the second problem is that when computing this (before validated) flight, it generates a lot of errors and the flight isn't valide anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Change the Initial Altitude/FL and Step Climb settings to those shown: Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Thats what i made (i entered FL 335 for max Alt/FL) but it still either limits it to FL200 and/or it cannot validate it.... Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Have you also changed the ' Initial Altitude/FL and Step Climb ' and shown ? If so post a snapshot of your planning screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Ah thanks for the advise. I didn't know that option. I tried to change it to "OPEN MAX" and the flightplan now went to FL320. But when computing it, i get 8 errors again and no validation passed... Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I would need to see the validation errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 ok, here... Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 The only validation error is the 'off block time' which you are well past 1905Z Other entries are PFPX information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Ah i see, thanks...but why is there no "The flight plan has passed IFPS validation"? When everything's fine i get this message: Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Set the planned dep time to later, say 2200Z and try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Yes! It worked! Thanks very much for your help Stephen. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky 856 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Hi, "moving" the rule LF4232 from Altitude/FL Restrictions to Route Restrictions plus one additonal adjustment will generate the route, Stephen mentioned above, straight away without any manual changes required. I'll check for similar rules and adapt them as well. The changes will be included in the upcoming update for RAD Restrictions and Directs 1906. Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel_V 14 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 18 hours ago, Miguel_V said: Could you use this? LSZH SID VEBIT DCT HOC UL613 RLP STAR LFPG This route edited in PFPX with AIRAC 1905 the minimum and maximum levels for UL613 are FL195 and FL500, I'm only fixed on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Sharky said: Hi, "moving" the rule LF4232 from Altitude/FL Restrictions to Route Restrictions plus one additonal adjustment will generate the route, Stephen mentioned above, straight away without any manual changes required. I'll check for similar rules and adapt them as well. The changes will be included in the upcoming update for RAD Restrictions and Directs 1906. Regards David Thanks for picking up on the resolution David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz008 11 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 vor 7 Stunden , Sharky sagte: Hi, "moving" the rule LF4232 from Altitude/FL Restrictions to Route Restrictions plus one additonal adjustment will generate the route, Stephen mentioned above, straight away without any manual changes required. I'll check for similar rules and adapt them as well. The changes will be included in the upcoming update for RAD Restrictions and Directs 1906. Regards David Thanks very much David! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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