teolicht 0 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Hello. I haven't been able to plan flights because using the flight plans that onlineflightplanner.org gives me, I always receive either a "AWY/WPT MISMATCH" error or a "NOT ALLOWED" message. For example, I recently tried to do a flight from EKCH to LPPT, using a flight plan from the website, but when I try to insert the VAVIX waypoint, it gives me a "NOT ALLOWED" message. I will leave the full flight plan below. I don't know what to do, only a few flight plans can be inserted into the airplane flawlessly. I imagine this is because something is outdated? I'm using AIRAC cycle 1905. What am I doing wrong? Any help is appreciated. Flight plan EKCH-LPPT: EKCH (0.0nm) -SID-> NEXEN (60.0nm) -T503-> GIMRU (78.5nm) -UT503->GIPDO (84.8nm) -UT503-> MIC (97.2nm) -UZ707-> GULMI (211.3nm) -UZ707->KOMOT (311.7nm) -UZ707-> AKUXO (370.7nm) -UZ707-> ULPEN (379.6nm) -UZ707->LNO (392.7nm) -UZ707-> RASCA (434.0nm) -UZ707-> FAMEN (449.9nm) -UZ707->BSN (525.3nm) -UZ707-> RESMI (575.8nm) -UN857-> DEKOD (593.3nm) -UN857->DISAK (602.4nm) -UN857-> DEPOM (651.4nm) -UN857-> DIRMO (665.1nm) -UN857->ARTAX (717.8nm) -UN857-> BEBIX (742.3nm) -UN857-> LMG (759.9nm) -UN857->UVELI (820.2nm) -UN857-> OSMOB (850.6nm) -UN857-> VAVIX (877.6nm) -UP181->MAGEC (916.1nm) -UP181-> BTZ (937.8nm) -UP181-> URUNA (949.9nm) -UP181->SSN (954.6nm) -UP181-> VRA (1011.8nm) -UP181-> NEA (1081.3nm) -UN864->NONTU (1113.1nm) -UN864-> ORBIS (1127.2nm) -UN864-> DISKO (1142.3nm) -UN864->TLD (1205.3nm) -UN864-> DOPEN (1218.4nm) -UN864-> MONTO (1250.8nm) -UN857->MOLIN (1266.8nm) -UN857-> HIJ (1302.1nm) -UN10-> SVL (1374.2nm) -UM744->SANTA (1403.5nm) -UM744-> ROSAL (1447.1nm) -UZ227-> EXONA (1515.4nm) -STAR->LPPT (1568.2nm) Teodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffie3000 96 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Well, I put the plan into my flightplanner and it would works, so you must typing in some wrong item. But the route is a big indirect route, normally you dont would flight first down to Sevilla and then back to LPPT. The red lines show you alternatives Please login to display this image. Here is the route over Biscaya: EKCH NEXEN T503 GIMRU UT503 MIC UZ707 BSN UT300 PON UN872 BARKO DCT RALUS DCT INBOM INBO7K LPPT/Rwy03 Hope it helps, Wolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teolicht 0 Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Hoffie3000 said: Here is the route over Biscaya: EKCH NEXEN T503 GIMRU UT503 MIC UZ707 BSN UT300 PON UN872 BARKO DCT RALUS DCT INBOM INBO7K LPPT/Rwy03 Thank you for your answer. I just don't understand how you came up with this alternative flight plan? The route you got doesn't work for me... it also tells me 'not allowed' when I try to insert the 'BARKO' waypoint into the aircraft's flight plan. What could be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted May 19, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted May 19, 2019 Hi, maybe it’s a good idea post one or more screenshots of the problem. Next, what AIRAC is your database and what is your flight planing tool? IRL airways and waypoints sometimes change over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffie3000 96 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Well, I created the flight plan on my Airbus too and it seems that the Airbus FMC do not handle the first two waypoints right. The rest of the route has no failure. AIRAC 1905 If you type in departure Rwy and SID, the SID ends at NEXEN on LowAlt_Route T503. Next Waypoint is GIMRU and here starts UT503 a HighAlt_Route in direction MIC. If you type in T503 and after that UT503 the FMC show you two times GIMRU instead of GIMRU first and then MIC. Please login to display this image. You can avoid that behavior if you type in: T503 -- GIMRU UT503 -- in that case MIC will set and you can normally fill in the next flightplan steps UZ707 Please login to display this image. But be aware that the UN872 ends at BARKO. From there RALUS and INBOM insert via the NEXT WPT option. This has to do with the FreeRouteAirspace over the north of Spain and Portugal where you can use directs instead of Airways. Please login to display this image. Hope it helps, regards Wolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teolicht 0 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Hoffie3000 said: Well, I created the flight plan on my Airbus too and it seems that the Airbus FMC do not handle the first two waypoints right. The rest of the route has no failure. AIRAC 1905 If you type in departure Rwy and SID, the SID ends at NEXEN on LowAlt_Route T503. Next Waypoint is GIMRU and here starts UT503 a HighAlt_Route in direction MIC. If you type in T503 and after that UT503 the FMC show you two times GIMRU instead of GIMRU first and then MIC. You can avoid that behavior if you type in: T503 -- GIMRU UT503 -- in that case MIC will set and you can normally fill in the next flightplan steps UZ707 But be aware that the UN872 ends at BARKO. From there RALUS and INBOM insert via the NEXT WPT option. This has to do with the FreeRouteAirspace over the north of Spain and Portugal where you can use directs instead of Airways. Hope it helps, regards Wolfgang This worked! Thank you. I'll try to figure it out on other flight plans. I just use routefinder (rfinder.asalink.net). Wolfgang, may I ask how you came up with that alternative route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffie3000 96 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Oh, there are a lot of sites where you can see and/or get flight plans for Simulators. https://www.simbrief.com/home/ https://www.vroute.net/ I look also at flightaware.com to see some real life flights. In USA you can see at that side also the flight plan. https://flightaware.com/ Please login to display this image. Wolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted May 21, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted May 21, 2019 In may opinion simbrief is the only one that give you the most correct and reliable routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teolicht 0 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Alright. Thank you for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted May 21, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted May 21, 2019 Because we believe this topic has been answered we have closed it. If you have any more questions feel free to open a new topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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