Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I have been using PFPX for many years and overall it does a good job of selecting a good route for flights. But this one has me stumped. I don't blame PFPX. The problem appears to be a lack of SIDs to the south out of Orlando. Surely in the real world there must be flights with a more sensible routing than this. If I'm interpreting this correctly I take off to the north and fly for almost 80nm before a u-turn and head south before turning left for a sensible routing. 160nm without going anywhere! Really? JAG6 MATEO J53 WORMS V267 KIZER V437 OVIDO J45 TRV ANNEY4 Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Many of the departure SID's are via vectors and therefor not included in the AIRAC data. From the charts, CITRUS 1 for example, add the depicted departure points using the airport editor: Please login to display this image. Route found then: MLB BLUFI4 From flightaware MLB HILEY7 flown as direct FAA preferred route MCO MLB HILEY7 MIA ( likely ORLANDO 4 dep ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Thanks Stephen. Two questions. Where do you get that airport info from? And why is the HILEY7 option not available in PFPX. Otherwise that's a much better routing, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The exit points are denoted on the charts eg ORLANDO4 and CITRUS1, I have merely added those to the airport departure procedures using the editor. HILEY7 is available, BLUFI4 automatically selected as it has the MLB transition. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, srcooke said: The exit points are denoted on the charts eg ORLANDO4 and CITRUS1, I have merely added those to the airport departure procedures using the editor. HILEY7 is available, BLUFI4 automatically selected as it has the MLB transition. Stephen, you still aren't telling me where I can access those charts. Navigraph subscription or another hopefully free source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Freely though SkyVector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Good man, thanks. DP Charts. Got it. Any chance this info could make its way into PFPX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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