chkl 34 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I have hard times when planning auto routes and this has to be why... Another Route Restriction error that is wrong Please login to display this image. From this real world route I will paste below. I use the Navigraph Navdata and the Directs download from your library If these errors can be fixed then I believe I will have better luck using create a route auto-route and not have to get friends to supply a real route for a route I want to fly each flight. Thank you FPL-TAY052-IN -B744/H-SDE1FGHIJ4J5RWXYZ/LB1D1 -OMDB1240 -N0440F210 DAVMO M318 GABKO/N0500F320 M317 ROTAL/N0490F340 UP574 SYZ UT430 RIGOX/N0480F360 UT430 VUVAG UR660 DASIS UL746 ERZ UW704 CRM UL746 ODERO L621 REVDA P193 URELA/N0480F380 L40 MEGIK DCT AMRAX DCT LALES L602 BABUS DCT OKG UL984 BOMBI DCT SIPVU Z104 IDOVI/N0450F240 Z104 ODVUX/N0450F220 Z104 ROBON/N0410F180 Z104 GESLO -EBLG0656 EBBR EDDK -PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S2 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 SUR/260B DOF/190303 REG/OOTHA EET/OIIX0012 LTAA0229 LTBB0354 LBSR0359 LRBB0409 LHCC0458 LZBB0514 LKAA0526 EDUU0558 EDGG0628 EBBU0636 OPR/ASL BELGIUM ORGN/RSYFP5O TALT/OMSJ RMK/TCAS EQUIPPED UNITED ARAB EMIRATES DCAA7528TAY828802OCT18 IRAN YK2B02N28402PAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky 858 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hi, I quote myselfe from this thread of yours from nearly three weeks ago: "Regarding the third restriction, maybe PFPX wants to use Z104 MISGI T894 BITBU Z110 BETEX instead of Z104 AGBUL T894 BITBU Z110 BETEX. With this adaption only ED3468 is left." Also ED2990 states in the document for "Operational Goal": Only available for CDA approaches by ATC Please login to display this image. As a workaround I would change this rule in PFPX to not allow any traffic for this airway segment. Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Actually the auto-route function provides a valid route on first pass here this morning: (FPL-GZESA-IN -B744/H-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1D1 -OMDB1240 -N0517F320 DAVM3F DAVMO M318 GABKO M317 ROTAL UP574 KASOL A418 SYZ UP574 PEKAM Z1 DEKBA/N0499F340 Z1 TBZ UL333 DASIS UL746 ERZ UL851 HOCAM UW71 BAVTI UL851 TOLUN/N0491F360 UL851 KUGOS L851 ADINA L624 TOMET/N0499F380 L624 KARIL DCT ABULI DCT MAKAL L624 LABUK Y444 ELMEK L726 OKG UL984 BOMBI DCT SIPVU T847 OLIVI Q762 LULAT Z104 ROBON UZ104 GESLO -EBLG0636 EHBK -PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/190305 REG/GZESA EET/OIIX0010 LTAA0218 UKFV0324 LRBB0346 LHCC0441 LZBB0453 LKAA0507 EDUU0539 EDGG0611 EBBU0618 RVR/75 OPR// / PER/D -E/0809) Please login to display this image. Your supplied route would actually fail IFPS validation today: Please login to display this image. The image that you selectively posted is for information and what PFPX is considering and not necessarily an error message, posting all the information including OFP following validation would give a clearer picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chkl 34 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, srcooke said: Actually the auto-route function provides a valid route on first pass here this morning: (FPL-GZESA-IN -B744/H-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1D1 -OMDB1240 -N0517F320 DAVM3F DAVMO M318 GABKO M317 ROTAL UP574 KASOL A418 SYZ UP574 PEKAM Z1 DEKBA/N0499F340 Z1 TBZ UL333 DASIS UL746 ERZ UL851 HOCAM UW71 BAVTI UL851 TOLUN/N0491F360 UL851 KUGOS L851 ADINA L624 TOMET/N0499F380 L624 KARIL DCT ABULI DCT MAKAL L624 LABUK Y444 ELMEK L726 OKG UL984 BOMBI DCT SIPVU T847 OLIVI Q762 LULAT Z104 ROBON UZ104 GESLO -EBLG0636 EHBK -PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/190305 REG/GZESA EET/OIIX0010 LTAA0218 UKFV0324 LRBB0346 LHCC0441 LZBB0453 LKAA0507 EDUU0539 EDGG0611 EBBU0618 RVR/75 OPR// / PER/D -E/0809) Please login to display this image. Your supplied route would actually fail IFPS validation today: Please login to display this image. The image that you selectively posted is for information and what PFPX is considering and not necessarily an error message, posting all the information including OFP following validation would give a clearer picture. I am trying to be helpful again my post is not to say the route is not passing validation my post is one more "route restriction you are on the wrong airway" message is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The information message is suggesting why T894 is not been used, which is on your route at a lower level which as David has posted can only be used arriving ELLX between KOVAN and ABGUL. It is very useful to know what PFPX is considering so that if necessary the restriction entry can be updated or even removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 David, I have found modifying ED2990 using Not Available / EXCEPT /ELLX appears to work: Please login to display this image. Perhaps give the modification a try CHKL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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