Frafty 6 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I was being vectored off course for the Highway Visual RWY 31 approach into KLGA, and then this started to happen on the PFD: Please login to display this image. I'm assuming this is a bug as I don't think it's supposed to look that way (descent arrow and [D] off the course line). A320 CFM variant. P3D 4.4 Latest update of the bus professional edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Frafty said: I was being vectored off course for the Highway Visual RWY 31 approach into KLGA, and then this started to happen on the PFD: Please login to display this image. I'm assuming this is a bug as I don't think it's supposed to look that way (descent arrow and [D] off the course line). A320 CFM variant. P3D 4.4 Latest update of the bus professional edition I'm pretty darned familiar with the the LGA Expressway Visual 31, but I really don't understand what you're trying to describe. Can you provide more of a narrative and specifics starting with where you're at and what your intensions are for the approach? Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frafty 6 Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 Didn't describe the approach because it's not relevant to what the PFD is displaying. I'm manually flying the aircraft when cleared, but the PFD is showing floating indicators way off from the course line. See how the blue arrow and the "descent" icon is just floating in the abyss and not on the course line? That's not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frafty 6 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Any feedback on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted December 27, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted December 27, 2018 What navdatabase is used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frafty 6 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 If you're talking about the AIRAC, it's the most up to date one. If you're not talking about the AIRAC, where would I find the information you're looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted December 27, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted December 27, 2018 Navigraph or NDP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frafty 6 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Navigraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frafty 6 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Well, actually, looking at the configurators, I never changed them, so NDP is selected for the two airbuses. Should I change that to match the data set that I have access to, Navigarph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted December 27, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted December 27, 2018 I'll ask some of the testers to fly that approach next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I had it planned for today Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 So the magenta symbol in question is the Decel Point (Deceleration Point). You can find additional information about this in Volume 2, Page 8 as well as in several other Volumes and sections of our documentation), which you will normally see along your planned route (so long as you're on it). In the screen shot you provided, you're not on the route (likely a vector?) and the Decel Point is not shown along the planned route but is still showing because deceleration is needed. We're researching whether the Decel Point symbol should even be showing, but I feel certain in this case it showing because a Descent Point would also be present on the MCDU FLTPLAN page. The same goes for the Descent Point symbol. I hope this answers your question! As I said, we'll look into whether the Decel and Descent Points should still be showing when the aircraft is off route. Best wishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs The Dude 6537 Posted December 27, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted December 27, 2018 Short answer to the first post. Yes it is a bug. It is known to happen when flying vectors to an approach. The dev can not reproduce it with 100% certainty so we are still hoping to find a solution for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Frank Docter said: Short answer to the first post. Yes it is a bug. It is known to happen when flying vectors to an approach. The dev can not reproduce it with 100% certainty so we are still hoping to find a solution for it not to happen. Frank... I can reproduce it. At least I did on the KLGA ILS 04 approach. I saved the flight and will pass it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs The Dude 6537 Posted December 27, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted December 27, 2018 Excellent work Dave! Hope we can squash this bug with the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frafty 6 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atav757 19 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Sorry to resurrect this post but just reading how you all respond to these bugs is amazing.. I’m very happy to support a great company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgulkagan 18 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Saw it in my flights too. Seems the decel points, or constraint points, are drawn between PLANE and NEXT route waypoint. So if you're off route, the point floats on the imaginary line between your position and the position of the next waypoint on your route (active waypoint). May be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meyerflyer 154 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 @Aerosoft staff: You should (hopefully) find this issue already in your bug database since August, as I reported this, too. https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/138981-blue-arrow-not-being-placed-correctly/ and https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/141123-blue-arrow-in-heading-mode/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Secondator 643 Posted January 7, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted January 7, 2019 It's indeed in our tracking system. I will ask for the status of this. However, unfortunately I cannot promise any estimations for a fix at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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