Peter Lund 7 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Hi All, I am currently planning a trip over the Atlantic with the 744 and are flying a random track, but when I am printing the flight package the plotting chart is grayed out. Is it only available on NAT tracks and if so is it possible to fix that in a update so the plotting chart can be printed when you cross the Atlantic? I also tried using EDTO where I have made 3 profiles with 90 min., 120 min., and 180 min. and no matter which one I use it comes up red even with 3 alternates (CYQX. BIKF and EGPK). In the past I never had a problem with EDTO and the 747. Best regards Peter Lund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 No issues here with any of the above Peter. Perhaps try a different PDF printer. Post snapshots of the planning windows including EDTO. EGKK-KIAD.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lund 7 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Thanks Stephen, I can print everything else than the Plotting chart. When I try to put in EDTO in comes up in red even though the alternate airports circle overlaps eachother. Best regards Peter Lund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil747fan 52 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Peteer could you post your flightplan windows and your aircraft profile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lund 7 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Hi Philippe, Please see below Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. And this is the route and EDTO which comes up red Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 What are the enroute adequates, the only way to get the EDTO tab active here when using the 744 profile is when the adequates are not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lund 7 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 I didn´t have any, but with adequates I can make EDTO. But I am still not able to print the plotting chart. Just made a route from KMEM-PHNL with KMEM, KSAN, PHTO as adequate airports and EDTO with KLAX and PHNL which it made without issues and it also gave me the possibility to print plotting chart. So I am confused why it won´t let me do it over the Atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil747fan 52 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Peter, never seen a calculation for 2 engines out for the 744 it was one engine out ... Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil747fan 52 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 your flightplan worked for me eddk kmem.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Tested both printing to PDF and directly to paper for a random NATS route EDDK-KMEM Peter, no problem here. Does the issue apply to PDF, paper or both ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lund 7 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 I am not sure, normally I print directly from PFPX onto paper. I am now enroute to PHNL and was able to make EDTO (without adequate airports) and print the Plotting chart. Not sure why I had those issues yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 As you had removed the adequate airports ( 180min threshold time for the 744 ) and didn't cover the entire route with EDTO entries the box stayed red. For the route posted: EGPK BIKF CYQX KMEM would be required. Not sure why you are removing the adequate airport entries that define EDTO is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lund 7 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Hi Stephen, First of all thank you for your help. It is still a little up and down if I can print the plotting chart. As I see there are the EDTO airports where ETP is calculated and the adequate airports which is for the whole route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Have you tried printing the same OFP to PDF, if WIN10 then try the Microsoft Print to PDF option and post the file here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teli 0 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 A slightly different question. Is it possible to print a blank form of plotting charts to be able to manually enter the route? As far as I know, this old school is still practiced and it would be nice to practice manual route marking Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil747fan 52 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 you may find it on the interweb. if you are patient i will find you a link tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil747fan 52 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 http://www.trainati.com/ToolKit/ATI Plotting Chart North Atlantic.pdf https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/ifr/ have a look at the NARC one ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil747fan 52 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 http://code7700.com/paper_vs_plastic.htm interesting reading ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teli 0 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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