Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 EGPH-LFPG in a Lear 25 with a 51,000ft ceiling. Tried several times now to get a routing with a decent ceiling. All I can get is FL290. Why? Tried Min Fuel, Min Cost but stuck at 290. Tried Min Time and cruise was 250. Route is: EGPH GOSA1C GOSAM P600 FENIK UL612 WOD UM605 BIBAX BIBA8D LFPG PFPX v2.03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 EuroControl city pair level capping EG4064 (EGTTFIR except (LONDON_GROUP, EGTC)) to (BRUSSELS_GROUP,PARIS_GROUP, EH**) via VABIK Not above FL295 H24 You would also need to be below FL265 at SFD where EGLF1001 applies. Validated plan: (FPL-LEAR-IS -LJ25/L-SDFGRWY/S -EGPH1420 -N0441F290 GOSAM P600 FENIK UL612 WOD/N0444F270 UM605 SFD/N0446F260 UM605 BIBAX -LFPG0128 LFOE -PBN/B2B3B4D2D3O2O3S2 DOF/181218 REG/LEAR EET/EGTT0015 LFFF0105 RVR/550 PER/C -E/0228) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 If you set a FL260 restriction at SFD Ray you could lift the sector in EGTT by overiding the route MAX ALT/FL entry: (FPL-LEAR-IS -LJ25/L-SDFGRWY/S -EGPH1420 -N0435F390 GOSAM P600 FENIK UL612 COWLY/N0444F270 UL612 WOD UM605 SFD/N0446F260 UM605 BIBAX -LFPG0128 LFOE -PBN/B2B3B4D2D3O2O3S2 DOF/181218 REG/LEAR EET/EGTT0015 LFFF0105 RVR/550 PER/C -E/0228) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thanks Stephen. I have to admit I'm no expert with all these rules. I would have thought that higher would have been allowed as it uses less fuel. Just seen your second reply. I shall try that on the return although whether it works for a flight to EGCC is anyone's guess. I've never tried setting a restriction. Something new to learn. LATER: Just planned LFPG-EGCC and I get cleared up to FL400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 The level capping is incorrectly applied in this case Ray as it is not possible to enter the via's in the restriction. SFD restriction does however apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Stephen, Is there somewhere where I can learn how to decypher all this info? And when you mentioned the level capping is incorrectly applied where you talking about LFPG-EGCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Information on just about all of the error codes and restrictions are available at the Eurocontrol-RAD website , refer to the current AIRAC entry. There is a consolidated PDF but of late the row height can cut-off some of the entry, you may then need to access the spreadsheets. Having computed the flight in PFPX and validated the route information at the foot of the message tab will indicate any IFPS errors should there be any. Most of the error information is self explanatory, by all means post anything that is not clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Proudfoot 231 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thanks Stephen, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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