MiHei 3 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I'll try to keep this as concise as possible, yet hopefully provide enough information. To make a long story short with the advent of the latest experimental update 1.2.1.3, subject line aircraft will not take off properly from anywhere. Seems under powered when I set MAN-FLEX, barely lifts off, and then plummets to the ground. This does not occur when I reinstall 1.2.1.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 19, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 19, 2018 What airport, weather and what FLEX setting? I will try to reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meyerflyer 154 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I reported something similar with the A319 IAE and after updating to 1.2.1.2. Maybe it's the same problem and a general IAE issue. http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/140250-takeoff-thrust-with-higher-flex-temp-is-lower-than-climb-thrust/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryJet 14 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Same thing with the A320 IAE stock United livery using the experimental v1.2.1.3.. Rolled back to v1.2.1.0 and the problem goes away. V1.2.1.3 lets you choose KG or LBS. I switched to LBS and can't help but wonder if the non-Boeing FMS is seeing the weights as KG, not LBS. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 20, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 20, 2018 Ok, did a departure with 321 IAE from SKBO. An higher airport with GW of 87t. No Problem so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrendrop3 14 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Also had a problem at EGCC on Friday with FLEX 65 on rwy 23R it just crashed, re ran with TOGA no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 21, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, barrendrop3 said: Also had a problem at EGCC on Friday with FLEX 65 on rwy 23R it just crashed, re ran with TOGA no problem Was that the FLEX calculated by the airbus or did you changed it yourself? What was the outside TEMP/QNH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 21, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 21, 2018 There is a minimum info required to look into it: TEMP/QNH FLEX FLAP TOW AC Type Airport/RWY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrendrop3 14 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I will try again and note all the details you require, I used the the Flex value calculated by the Airbus and shown in the MCDU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragged^2 40 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 A320 IAE, 63,53 tons TOW ESSA RWY 19R, Y9 13 C / 1008 1 / UP 0.4 Flex 69, 142,142,143 Ended up almost crashing, I had to go TOGA to get the plane to accelerate. I used http://www.wabpro.cz/A320/ for the perf calculations, used to be bang on with the previous Aerobus version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Alonso 64 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Any news on this? It seems that the IAE does not apply FLEX thrust correctly at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 23, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 11:18 PM, Fragged^2 said: A320 IAE, 63,53 tons TOW ESSA RWY 19R, Y9 13 C / 1008 1 / UP 0.4 Flex 69, 142,142,143 Ended up almost crashing, I had to go TOGA to get the plane to accelerate. I used http://www.wabpro.cz/A320/ for the perf calculations, used to be bang on with the previous Aerobus version. Thanks, will try to recreate at weekend. I‘m on business trip currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 23, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 11:53 AM, Joan Alonso said: Any news on this? It seems that the IAE does not apply FLEX thrust correctly at all. Hi, I will test on weekend. But until now I had no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted October 23, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 23, 2018 Also no problems today taking off 15/1013 58 1/UP0.7 66 320 IAE EDDM/26L Will try another airport with real weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs masterhawk 799 Posted October 23, 2018 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 11:53 AM, Joan Alonso said: Any news on this? It seems that the IAE does not apply FLEX thrust correctly at all. Hi, I will test on weekend. But until now I had no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltent1184 0 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I can repro this issue. A320IAE (stock British Airways), EGLL, 9R take-off. Flex temp = 63 or 64 (don't remember). Trim: 1/UP0.2. Fuel=8900kg. After take-off, it behaves as if no thrust is set (idle?) and then aircraft plummets to ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel18 25 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Same here...it also has happen to me the last couple times i have used at A320IAE - taking off ESSA - everything seems fine ---TRIM 1DN0.2 flex 64 but i get nothing ---no power ---just terrain terrain and then plummets to the ground...tried the same exact thing on the A320 CFM engines and no issues ...the weather was fine Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwise7 37 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Another incident here, same issue. Any word on the next update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltent1184 0 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I am still facing this issue with A320 IAE with 1.2.1.5 update. I did a fresh install of 1.2.1.0 and then updated to 1.2.1.5 and did the same flight. After take off, the speed drops causing the aircraft to crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianor 6 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I had exactly the same problem today departing 09R at LHR in a A320 (IAE)...........lift off, climb slowly, gear up, speed then decreases, get gear back down, arrive back on the ground, hurtle through the trees, stagger into the sky on TOGA like a drunken albatross, alter heading for the SID........and all was then good again and the remainder of the flight was perfectly normal. Not ideal when under live ATC! I will try again running on Unlimited Fuel....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianor 6 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Some more detail on the above flight : A320 IAE / ZFW : 57.2 / TOW : 61.5 / Fuel : 44.9 EGLL 09R / Wind : 14012kt / QNH : 1011 FLEX : 67 / Flap : 1/UP0.8 / Vr 142kts Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianor 6 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I am a little surprised that this problem has not elicited a response from the developers. Unless I have missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted December 6, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted December 6, 2018 In the next update, all climb profiles have been overhauled. That most likely will solve this issue. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZK-NZE 15 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I am having exactly the same problem trying to takeoff from ENGM 01R right now. The aircraft will not unstick after rotate. When I manually slew the aircraft into the air (after five or six takeoff attempts) up to around 6,000 ft, the aircraft cannot hold altitude at all (the closest I could get was a descent of ~1200 FT/MIN). Aircraft is now completely unflyable. I've got some screenshots below: Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. I hope there's a fix soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Reynolds 13 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 This isn't a case of icing, is it? What were the temps at ENGM and did you have wing/engine anti-ice turned on if appropriate? (a question from somebody who forgot anti-ice once himself!) Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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