Tom Stian 11 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Hello. Thank you for this airport. Just had a flight from ENGM to ENTC. The ILS for runway 01 is very off as you can see on the pictures below. Is this a scenery or x-plane issue ? (Using navigraph) The ILS for runway 19 was ok. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Hi Tom, I just did a landing at 01 with the Zibo 737. Although the charts say course 005 the FMC (Navigraph with current cycle) said 009 and with 009 it worked properly. We'll investigate further... Greets Marten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian 11 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thank you. I dont know if it is usefull info, but here is a sample from my earth_nav.dat for ILS 01 at ENTC. 4 69.696200000 18.927513889 56 11090 18 13.047 TC ENTC EN 01 ILS-cat-I 6 69.674477778 18.915261111 56 11090 18 400013.047 TC ENTC EN 01 GS 12 69.674488889 18.915208333 56 11090 25 0.000 TC ENTC EN LANGNES DME-ILS Let me know if you need more information from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 So I did another flight with the default BE58 and on Frequency 110.90 with a course of 005 I am landing right at the touchdown point. Is it possible that your default global airport folder is overlaying Tromso? Or your nav data might be outdated? Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian 11 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 I have tested different things now. Global Airports is below the two ENTC folders. But for testing I tried to move both on top in scenery_packs.ini. But the same issue. My navdata is updated. Using current cycle from navigraph. 1100 Version - data cycle 1809, build 20180812, metadata NavXP1100. Copyright (c) 2018 Navigraph, Datasource Jeppesen (from \custom data\earth_nav.dat) Deleted the .prf files from output\preferences Disabled all of my plugins, but still the same issue :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude 190 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm currently doing a flight from Longyear, will let you know when I get to the ILS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude 190 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Please login to display this image. I get the same issue (Navigraph 1809 rev1 ) The ILS for some reason shows 4. (Zibo 737- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I hate bugs which are not reproducable on my computer Will test further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude 190 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I know the feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Heinz Flichtbeil 1609 Posted August 25, 2018 Administrator Share Posted August 25, 2018 Hello, may be it is this problem. More infos here: https://developer.x-plane.com/?article=navdata-in-x-plane-11 The position of the Global Airports in the custom scenery folder does no matter for the NavData (only for the scenery). As I know the X-Plane 11.26r2 default earth_nav.dat saved in the Global Airports folders are different (for ENTC) from the earth_nav.dat saved in the Custom Data folder actualized with NavDataPro (cycle 1809).... earth_nav.dat from the Global Airports folder from the Custom Scenery folder: ... 4 69.69620000 018.92751400 56 11090 18 12.084 TC ENTC EN 01 ILS-cat-I 4 69.67152800 018.91105600 36 10990 18 193.280 TR ENTC EN 19 ILS-cat-I ... 6 69.67447800 018.91526100 0 11090 10 400012.200 TC ENTC EN 01 GS 6 69.68838600 018.92005600 0 10990 10 400192.200 TR ENTC EN 19 GS ... earth_nav.dat (Custom Data Cycle 1809 NavDataPro) for ENTC: ... 4 69.696200000 18.927513889 25 11090 18 13.047 TC ENTC EN 01 ILS-cat-I 6 69.674477778 18.931927778 25 11090 18 400013.047 TC ENTC EN 01 GS 4 69.670750000 18.910544444 13 10990 18 193.047 TR ENTC EN 19 ILS-cat-I 6 69.688386111 18.920055556 13 10990 18 400193.047 TR ENTC EN 19 GS ... So I think the problem depends on where the used aircraft will read the navdata. From the Global airports folders or from the Custom Data folder..... Here we have to search for the issue I think... Greets Heinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 @Tom Stian and @Jude: Could you please try to replace the lines in your global airports folder (earth_nav.dat) with the ones from NavDataPro (see Heinz' post) and verify if that solves the issue? I still can't reproduce it. But BACKUP FIRST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian 11 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Marten said: @Tom Stian and @Jude: Could you please try to replace the lines in your global airports folder (earth_nav.dat) with the ones from NavDataPro (see Heinz' post) and verify if that solves the issue? I still can't reproduce it. Hello I changed the earth_nav.dat in the global airports.. and the ils looks fine now, but that dont explain why you dont have the issue :/ .. Since the data is delivered by LR. Im running XP 11.25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude 190 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Excellent, works now, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian 11 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jude said: Excellent, works now, thank you. The problem is when you update x-plane this will be changed back. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Heinz Flichtbeil 1609 Posted August 26, 2018 Administrator Share Posted August 26, 2018 Yes, that is true. And to overwrite the earth_nav.dat in the Global Airports folders with new data is for sure not the best way to solve the problem. We only asked for test in this way to find the problem and what was the reason..... As Laminar wrote in the linked page (see my post above), the best way is to report a navdata problem with this page: https://gateway.x-plane.com/bugs But if the used aircraft read the actualized data (correct format ....) from the Custom Data folder then it shall work fine .... This Custom Data folder will not be overwrite with an X-Plane 11 update. Greets heinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I opend a ticket at LR to change the numbers within the next update cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian 11 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 45 minutes ago, Marten said: I opend a ticket at LR to change the numbers within the next update cycle. Sounds good.. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Hi everyone, the issue will be fixed with the next nav data update of X-Plane. https://gateway.x-plane.com/bug/XSG-5892 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogjack 0 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I've just tried Tromso 01 with full autoland on X-Plane 11.30b3 and it works perfectly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten 80 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Great thanks for the feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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