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Hi, Mathijs, thanks to you and the team. Superb support and communication.

 

Best.

 

Miquel.

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Gents, as long as we do not see the actual g-forces that were in action as the images were made, they simply provide no information. If you can show us it is wong when you actually have the product and can compare the actual movement to what it should be with some proof we gladly look at it again. You will need the correct table though, we managed to find one after many many months of searching. 

 

Until that moment this topic is simply not sensible.

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vor 2 Stunden , swap777 sagte:


I knew this was coming, if you do change the angle, yes it would give a better sense of deflection of the tips and here I'm pretty sure the real deal still has more flex than it's P3D counterpart even when you consider them "Angles".  Btw, here's a more closer matching "Angle" for those pedantic about the "Angles" lmao

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The tips still have greater flex. 

Hi swap777!

 

Would you say to a classic painter who paints a landscape with clouds that he did wrong? You would maybe say: "He, i´ve seen images of the same landscape without clouds! The painter cannot be a good one, because he ruined my expectations of having an

empty blue sky above the landscape !". The same thing you try to prove here currently. You show our product in a single state and then you try an awkward comparsion with not even the same aircraft (speed?, mass?, AOA?, turbulence?, G-Forces?, A330 Tanker with hanging boom instead of a PAX A330). This is a phenomenom i just see too often today by too many people. But there isn´t any logic behind your comparision and you should know better if you had investigated better before doing that post. Our A330 does correct and he does even better than you may anticipate, because the wingflex is even influenced by the deflection forces of pointing up and down ailerons and it oscilates shortly when forces hit it suddenly.  To finish the circle here, i tried to force our A330 to slap the wings like the A330 tanker and he is even able to do that....imagine that! PS:If you check the A330 tanker image further you will notice the subtle distortion on large areas of the wings, which is caused by the heat exhaust of aircraft the photo is taken from!

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4 minutes ago, 747-400fan said:

So which sounds are those? Is it like the 2000,80,70,60,5ft callouts or is it some other sounds? Like v1 for example,idk. 

I just saw the teasers of the beta and i have something to say. Werent the engines more roary ?(i may be wrong) cuz on takeoff with the wingview i felt like the sound was too plain, almost as plain as a220 or something (which i think are a lot quieter. Im not saying its too quiet but if i remember well RR a330s are known for a highly pitched up roary sound. BTW i feel like the pbr makes the flightdeck a lot more realistic, like if you could feel the different plastics around the flight deck. And also is it me or you finally changed the AP disc sound (a very good point) because with all respects it sounds super blurry on the smaller busses.

 

I am sorry, we do not provide a sound set intended to be used for the passenger cabin. 

 

But we have decided to make the flight deck sound a bit more than it sounds for a passenger. It is pretty clear that simpilots prefer a sound they recognize and not what the real pilots hear. So it will be louder, smallish effects will be more pronounced and it will be as if you are a lot closer to the engines, flaps and gear. Like in an A320 where the crew does not wear a headset. I believe that is what matches the expectations best. We might look at a serious sound set (so what we actually recorded inside a NC headset on the flight deck of an A330 early this year)  somewhere nearly next year. 

 

I also suggest to drop the sound discussion. As said we'll do what is expected. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Aviator1985 said:

 The upcoming MSFS, in which the aircraft will be affected upon different surfaces, will most probably grant more natural flexing and shaking wings.

 

We did that in the gliders we done.... the wings are not the same and the left one can flex different then the right one. Spend a load of time on that and nobody ever seen it. 

What we find most important in wingflex is the frequency. 95% of all wingtip movement are 'tremors' in the 40 to 80 Hz range.  Very fast small movements.  I know simmers love the big bents that are super obvious but these are rare and a lot of videos about show as much movement of the camera as the wingtip (negative G, wing tip up, camera up).

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5 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said:

 

Absolutely. Working with Dec 9th at the moment.

Can I have my copy now pls😆

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1 hour ago, Mathijs Kok said:

 

We did that in the gliders we done.... the wings are not the same and the left one can flex different then the right one. Spend a load of time on that and nobody ever seen it. 

What we find most important in wingflex is the frequency. 95% of all wingtip movement are 'tremors' in the 40 to 80 Hz range.  Very fast small movements.  I know simmers love the big bents that are super obvious but these are rare and a lot of videos about show as much movement of the camera as the wingtip (negative G, wing tip up, camera up).

 

I wouldn't know why simmers would prefer slow-mo wingfolding style wingflexes. Until the Aerosoft A330 and the new B737 I thought wing-flex in such high frequency were not possible. 

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I'm very glad to see this bird getting closer to see the light. :D  Cant wait to fly it.

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Mathijs, when will the trailer be released?

 

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There was also a stream done by the flight simmer - not sure if it was setup related but the auto-land was unstable.

Is that a known issue?

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1 hour ago, Mathijs Kok said:

Nope... the whole  EFB still needs to be filled...

i'm joking with you, looking forward to it!

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1 hour ago, canonprince1989 said:

I am supper concern about FPS in this nice bird, I watched streaming, and found it is not that good.

 

Please tell us the following regarding the stream(s) you watched.

 

1. What are the system specs?

2. What are the processor and graphics card settings?  Any overclock?  Turbo Mode kicking in?

3. What are the P3D Graphics and World Settings?

4. Was the person running payware airports and if so, which one(s)?

5. Was the person running ORBX products and if so, which ones?

6. Streamer using Live Weather?

7. What cloud textures and resolution?

8. What was the weather conditions of the stream?

9. What was the aircraft's altitude when you became concerned by FPS?

10. What AI Traffic was running and what are the texture resolutions?

11. Was the person using Twitch and/or Restream?

12. What is the output bandwidth of the streamers Internet service?

13. What were the stream software settings of the person streaming?

14. What is the viewers Internet download bandwidth and what is their ping and throughput from the Venue (Twitch, YouTube, etc.) server?

 

There are more questions I could ask, but those are the main ones.

 

At a minimum, you would have to know the answer to each and every question above to truly evaluate what you saw.

 

What I can tell you is that I run an i7-4770K with 4 cores locked at 4.5GHz along with a GTX 1080 pushing 4 different monitors (one 55 inch 4K and three 23 inch monitors) and I run a great many other software products while using P3D, and with 4K settings in P3D I average 24fps in the VC during taxi at payware airports like EGLL and EDDF, and higher fps (up to 50fps and greater during climb and cruise and descent in clear weather. 

 

There are way too many variables for us to forecast what your frame rates will be on any given system, all we can do is tell you what we see on ours.  Mathijs has said that you'll likely get 10% less frames with the A330 compared to the A320 Professional Series, though on my system the performance is roughly the same as the A320 Professional Series even though we have debugging software running on our Beta software.

 

In the end, if you're concerned it may not run on your system then I'd say skip the A330.

 

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3 hours ago, Bedran Batkitar said:

I have a question concerning the system sounds in the cockpit. I watched the stream from yesterday again, the aircraft was cold&dark and the streamer powered up the aircraft, external power on and we only hear a “click” and that’s it and like the same for the batteries. I mean the sound immersion in the cockpit is very important, I am wondering if that’s gonna stay like this or you are still working on it ?

 

Please keep in mind that sounds are different from system to system AND basing this on a stream adds a new element, the audio settings of the stream software and the stream throughput.

 

l am fairly sure the switch sounds will stay the same, but lets also keep in mind that switch sounds vary considerably by switch type and with flight deck systems running a pilot may not hear a switch move at all (especially push switches).

 

If it turns out you want to increase sounds based on you want to hear instead of what a pilot hears then let me know after you have used the product for a while and I'll show you how to change them to whatever you think they should be / what you want them to be and I'll be happy to show you how.

 

Best wishes!

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, cfso1518 said:

Hello, may I ask if the release of the software A330 aircraft models 200 and 300?

 

 

A330-300 RR. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. (For now).-

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19 minutes ago, matty260191 said:

What liveried will be included? I need a Corsair one thats all

There will probably be people in the community that can make one.

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26 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Hmm, I think Delta uses the PW version. I presume then this livery will not be included.

 

I am sure painters will provide a delta livery nonetheless. I mean we are "cheating" with the B77L as well using it for B772 operators. For example UAL B77L with GE for B772 with PW or SIA B77L with GE for B772 with RR. So why should we make an exception for the A333? 

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14 hours ago, canonprince1989 said:

I am supper concern about FPS in this nice bird, I watched streaming, and found it is not that good.

 

Judging frames from a stream is something I would never do, but on our own systems it is about 10% slower compared to the A320 series when you use the EFB for charts. But on my (rather clean) system I get a very easy 45 fps on Cologne.  Shown in the image.

 

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And yes, we are tweaking the oscillations on ILS, not an issue that worries me much.

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vor 48 Minuten, Pedro Trindade sagte:

Day one purchase for me. Keep the good work AS.

 

Cheers

Me too. I'm waiting a very long time for this extraordinary A330

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I assume turning off the EFB will improve performance. The only reason I ever use one is for performance calculations if there is one. 

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Can't wait to fly with this beauty.

 

I watched almost all of the streams and I noticed the GPU sound is missing. When you connect the GPU(External Power) actually it's not so quit. A improve will be perfect.

 

Thank's

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30 minutes ago, phlpeo said:

i was watching an A330-343 video from pilotseye tv and they showed the checklist with trim setting. A TOCG of 28% is roughly 3.5 units up while a 0.8UP value is associated with roughly a TOCG of 33%. so i am not so sure that this is correct in the current beta version. 

 

As all streamers probably already said, all you see here is WIP and not the final state of the product.

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