Wise87 63 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I just did a flight and 1.0.2.0 still has LNAV issues. What I observed so far is early turns prior to waypoint. Unexplained turns off course (magenta line) and had to use heading to get back. FMC wasn't updating as I crossed over positions in NAV mode. Was not a good first flight. Been flying 1.0.0.4 and didnt have these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Chief Pilot 829 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 How am I supposed to test (L)NAV, when waypoint sequencing works like this??? https://flightx.net/index.php?thread/94132-aerosoft-crj-700-900x-veröffentlicht-fsx/&postID=981950#post981950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComSimPilot 77 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I was excited for the update, now I read these reports. Very disappointed if its true, can we get a verification from the developer that there are still problems? In such case, doesn't this situation qualify for a refund? 2 months after and still missing this basic function of the simulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ900 335 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Yes, it's indeed unflyable using autoflight. Guess we have to wait for SP1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 I'm even more disappointed than you because after all the test flights I was sure the issue was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishcurse 19 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Did any of the testers ever experience this problem prior to this update? 3 months later and its still a problem. Was hoping to reinstall it back in my sim after 2 months. (tried working around it for the first month) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hard to say. It seems there's one glitch that got away. The testers report what happens to them and post their flightplans. Then I go and test those flightplans here and fix everything I come across. As you can see in the other thread (http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/128498-refuses-to-enter-dutch-airspace/) the issue does happen at different times even for the same user. That makes it very difficult to tell whether the actual reported bug has been reproduced and fixed or something else. So, I am already at work and will provide a fix as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMAN78 1 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Well, I completed a flight yesterday in P3D4.1 and it flew nicely. I had a whopping 105kt crosswind/ moderate turbulence on a flight to Salt Lake City and it flew nicely. The approach on the GS was a bit to the left of center but the weather conditions weren't ideal. This by far us the best build I've used. I'll keep testing on future flights and report back. Hans I your hard work an effort is appreciated. Thanks Respectfully ROMAN78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13 1 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hello, Just bought, just tested. after two or free direct, plane doesn t follow the route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 vor 41 Minuten, sam13 sagte: Just bought, just tested. after two or free direct, plane doesn t follow the route. Did you use the DIR Page or Copy&Paste on the LEGS Page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishcurse 19 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 A friend noticed it happened to him when the next waypoint was far away (not sure of the distance). I couldn't find a common denominator but the longer waypoints did seem to be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13 1 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, Hans Hartmann said: Did you use the DIR Page or Copy&Paste on the LEGS Page? i use dir page (point name and exe i flew from limf to lebl first direct to lagen then direct bordi then direct divko) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 gerade, sam13 sagte: i use dir page OK. Thanks. I will do some extra testing on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 I moved the topics that don't belong to this one into separate threads. Nothing has been deleted. So save your breath. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleWizard 44 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I had some issues with the DIR TO function as well. I was flying from KMSP to KMDW. This flight had a few issues. Firstly, the FMS did not load in all the waypoints on the RST9 departure. It had the waypoints FGT and RST, but was missing the FOBUG DOKTR and CORDY waypoints in between. The route was RST9 RST OHHMY ENDEE4. Secondly when I went DIR to FGT it could not capture the course, and instead turned 180 degrees before I used HDG mode to get back on course. It followed the route after that, but had trouble with direct to not working/wandering off course. Also upon arrival into KMDW I had loaded in ILS13C but ATC(vatsim) gave me RNP Y 13C. I couldn't seem to get the list of runways back in the DEP/ARR page so I had to deselect and reselect the whole arrival in order to select the RNP Y 13C. And lastly the airplane could not fly the RNP Y 13C approach. I started at the ZABNU transition and the aircraft made it until JUPIR, but there was no line drawn between JUPIR and NIDEE. I selected APP mode and also couldn't unselect it. The aircraft flew straight ahead and then turned left after crossing JUPIR. I then had to disengage the autopilot and fly the rest of the approach manually. I just tested the approach again and added a few screenshots to show what's going on. This time I did not use APP mode. It seems the MFD draws a line from the a/c no matter where it's positioned. In the last shot you can see how the airplane does manage to get to NIDEE but completely overflies DULTE. I would try flying the KMSP RST9 RST OHHMY ENDEE4 KMDW route with the RNAV Y 13C approach. It seems to struggle with many RNAV approaches, especially ones that are not straight in. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 vor 28 Minuten, XFalcon750 sagte: Firstly, the FMS did not load in all the waypoints on the RST9 departure. It had the waypoints FGT and RST, but was missing the FOBUG DOKTR and CORDY waypoints in between. What Navdata do you use? I just tried with the NavDataPro cycle 1712 and got all waypoints of the departure route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleWizard 44 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, Hans Hartmann said: What Navdata do you use? I just tried with the NavDataPro cycle 1712 and got all waypoints of the departure route. I have Navigraph cycle 1712. Procedure seems to load correctly with other aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 18, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 18, 2017 gerade, XFalcon750 sagte: I have Navigraph cycle 1712. Procedure seems to load correctly with other aircraft. Well, the nav data format is different with most other aircraft. I'll contact Richard Stefan and ask for a data sample so I can try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleWizard 44 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hans Hartmann said: Well, the nav data format is different with most other aircraft. I'll contact Richard Stefan and ask for a data sample so I can try this. Makes sense, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryJet 14 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 CRJ700 Flightplan KCHA HCH VXV HOSEM KTRI. Approach BO RWY05. 180 miles #1 Setup the flightplan, clear discontinuities, pref init, v speeds, all that. Takeoff Rwy02 and you're almost right on the active leg. NAV, Speed, AP all on. CRJ700 follows the flightplan until it passes HOSEM and should turn slightly left toward BO. Plane flies right thru its turn even though the FD is commanding a left turn. #2 Same flightplan, same jet, same everything except I did not include the approach (BO - RWY05) before takeoff. Just after passing VXV I entered the approach into the FMS. Soon as I hit "exec" the plane jerked wildly and settled into a shallow right turn. Could not recover using Direct To or HDG. Ended the flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadagoose 9 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 21 hours ago, Wise87 said: I just did a flight and 1.0.2.0 still has LNAV issues. What I observed so far is early turns prior to waypoint. Unexplained turns off course (magenta line) and had to use heading to get back. FMC wasn't updating as I crossed over positions in NAV mode. Was not a good first flight. Been flying 1.0.0.4 and didnt have these issues. Oops! Come on guys! I hope we're not looking at another 6 - 8 weeks for an update for this? Hope it's a quick Hotfix for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted November 19, 2017 Developer Share Posted November 19, 2017 vor 4 Stunden , canadagoose sagte: Oops! Come on guys! I hope we're not looking at another 6 - 8 weeks for an update for this? Hope it's a quick Hotfix for this! Yes. There will be a quick fix. But still, even that has to be tested before we release it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryJet 14 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Hans Hartmann said: Yes. There will be a quick fix. But still, even that has to be tested before we release it. Therein lies the problem. In my opinion if the current crop of testers isn't experiencing these problems, I doubt they can tell you that it's fixed. This thread alone offers a number of candidates who might be willing to become part of the solution rather than just complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise87 63 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, JerryJet said: Therein lies the problem. In my opinion if the current crop of testers isn't experiencing these problems, I doubt they can tell you that it's fixed. This thread alone offers a number of candidates who might be willing to become part of the solution rather than just complain about it. Well said. The updates should be tested by users that are having the problems. Pick one or two who have provided the best feedback and have them test the fix. I rather hear back from them than a beta tester who is not seeing the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryank1988 7 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Does anyone have issues with their flight director not working when flying an ILS approach? I'm in NAV mode on my MFD and the correct frequency, course and heading are programmed. The flight director is always telling me to turn to the left. It's done this on every flight for a long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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