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I noticed that FIR definitions are no longer valid and outdated for many parts of the world to the extent that I have to manually adjust EET/ when flying in certain regions for filing FPL in online network. Can we expect FIRs update with the next version of PFPX?

 

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Dear "EGSC9",

 

can you give an example on which FIR definitions are not valid any more or outdated?

Greetings

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On 24/01/2017 at 0:49 PM, vallewipp said:

Dear "EGSC9",

 

can you give an example on which FIR definitions are not valid any more or outdated?

Greetings

 

For instance the following FIRs in Russia are now encompassing many neighbouring FIRs present in PFPX as separate FIRs:

 

UWWW, USTR, UNNT, UNKL, UIII, UEEE, UHHH, ULLL.

 

Some of these changes have taken place as long as more than 1 year ago.

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The most recent UIR definition update was published on the 07th of January 2016, the next should follow soon. (Thats real data released from Eurocontrol)

 

Here we have following UIR for Russia at the moment:

 

ULMM - Murmansk

ULLL - St. Petersburg

UMMV - Minsk

UUWV - Moscow

ULWW - Vologda

ULKK - Kotlas

ULAA - Arkhangelsk

URRV - Rostov-Na-Donu

 

Further east, i am checking right now.

Just can you tell me, where from you got the information on the "new" definitions, and which one should be now right!

 

Greetings

 

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So hopefully i got now all of them together:

 

ULMM - Murmansk

ULAA - Arkhangelsk

ULLL - Sankt Peterburg

ULWW - Vologda

UUWV - Moscow

USKK - Kirov

UWWW - Samara (also Airport code is the same)

USPP - Perm

UUYY - Syktyvkar

UMKK - Kaliningrad

URRV - Rostov

USTR - Tyumen (same as airport)

USDD - Salekhard

USSS - Yekaterinenburg

UNNT - Novosibirsk

USCC - Chelyabinsk

UNKL - Krasnoyarsk

UIII - Irkutsk

UHHH - Khabarovsk

UELL - Chulman

UERP - Poliarny

UEEE - Yakutsk

USDK - Kamenny Mys

USDS - Tarko Sale

UTAK - Turkmenbashi

UTAA - Ashgabat

UTAT - Dashoguz

UTAV - Turkmenabat

UHPP - Petropavlovsk - Kamchatsky

UHMM - Magadan

UTDD - Dushanbe

URFV - Simferopol

 

Those are the most recent UIR and FIR definitions released on the 05th of January 2017 by the Russian CAA.

Some of the Airport Codes match the main airport code!

 

Hope that helps a little bit. Otherwise just ask.

 

Greetings

 

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1 hour ago, vallewipp said:

So hopefully i got now all of them together:

 

ULMM - Murmansk

ULAA - Arkhangelsk

ULLL - Sankt Peterburg

ULWW - Vologda

UUWV - Moscow

USKK - Kirov

UWWW - Samara (also Airport code is the same)

USPP - Perm

UUYY - Syktyvkar

UMKK - Kaliningrad

URRV - Rostov

USTR - Tyumen (same as airport)

USDD - Salekhard

USSS - Yekaterinenburg

UNNT - Novosibirsk

USCC - Chelyabinsk

UNKL - Krasnoyarsk

UIII - Irkutsk

UHHH - Khabarovsk

UELL - Chulman

UERP - Poliarny

UEEE - Yakutsk

USDK - Kamenny Mys

USDS - Tarko Sale

UTAK - Turkmenbashi

UTAA - Ashgabat

UTAT - Dashoguz

UTAV - Turkmenabat

UHPP - Petropavlovsk - Kamchatsky

UHMM - Magadan

UTDD - Dushanbe

URFV - Simferopol

 

Those are the most recent UIR and FIR definitions released on the 05th of January 2017 by the Russian CAA.

Some of the Airport Codes match the main airport code!

 

Hope that helps a little bit. Otherwise just ask.

 

Greetings

 

 

 

The following FIRs are still present in PFPX, they are now incorporated into other major FIRs:

 

ULOL

UWPP

UWKD

UWOO

UWUU

UUYW

USHH

USRR

USUU

UNOO

UNBB

UNIT

UENN

UEST

UHBB

UHSS

UHMI

UIAA

 

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Just can you tell me, where from you got the information on the "new" definitions, and which one should be now right!
 

 

 

Marco, here is Russian AIP, part ENR:

http://www.caiga.ru/common/AirInter/validaip/aip/enr/enr2/1-enr2-1.pdf

 

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Yop that's where i took all the FIRs from! And also checked them with our flight planning software in our office!

 

But just for interest, what for you need them? :-) Only the EETs on the ATC fpl?

 

i guess somewhere in PFPX Data folder you can change the definitions! Would need to check where!

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On 25/01/2017 at 10:24 PM, vallewipp said:

Yop that's where i took all the FIRs from! And also checked them with our flight planning software in our office!

 

But just for interest, what for you need them? :-) Only the EETs on the ATC fpl?

 

i guess somewhere in PFPX Data folder you can change the definitions! Would need to check where!

 

 

 

 

Vallewip, yes, FIRs EETs are mainly for ATC FPL, but also for situational awareness.

 

I can surely adjust EETs manually, but what's the point of doing this manually given we use payware flight planning system?

 

Developers, please update FIRs!

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