Mathijs Kok

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6 minutes ago, Mathijs Kok said:

There is a remarkable increase in price of many add-ons at this moment, one we do not understand.

 

Sorry for going off-topic on the A330, but Mathijs, I really, really want to thank you for speaking up about this. This relatively sudden increase in prices is something I have noticed as well, and we haven't seen a corresponding increase in depth and quality of said add-ons in my opinion. At least not to the same degree. Stuff that used to retail for $25 a couple of years ago now costs $45, way more than can be explained by inflation.

 

Thanks A LOT to Aerosoft for not going down that same road!! High quality combined with accessible prices and outstanding support is what defines Aerosoft for me, and makes me a happily returning customer.

 

Sorry for the off-topic post, but I just couldn't keep silent when I read your post.

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Tyrion, how can it be off topic if you comment on something I said? Don't worry. We tend to let these preview topics wonder a bit as they need to stay pleasant (marketing 101) and when needed we pull it back in. As you might know, the closer we get to a release the more ontopic it will get.

 

However, while I do question some of the pricing of some products, I do not pretend to take the high road. As explained Aerosoft has been around for 25 years, our company does not depend on the A330. As project manager I could totally screw this up and while I would expect to lose my job, Aerosoft will be fine. If you are trying to make a company survive after spending years investing in a new massive development you should do so in the way you feel is best. It's the customer who decides is that's valid. If you look at PMDG for example it is clear their 'expensive' pricing is accepted by customers. They have done it for many years and have proven to deliver what the customers are asking for. Customers feel they deliver exactly what I think is the most important. Value for money. 

 

 

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50€ + VAT is a bit expensive... It is practically the same aircraft as the A320 (systemwise).

There is only one aircraft ( A330-300 ) and not like the A320/21 a bundle.

As I know the difference between the A330 and the A320 is that you guys will add wing flex...

There should not be a comparison with other company prices...

 

Of course I could be wrong but that is my opinion and my thoughts. I can not change anything. The main and last decision is Aerosoft's decision.

 
kind regards

 
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another off topic! why aerosoft doesnt change the policy of the installers? to easy to crack! look pmdg or xplane addons of fligth 1 addons. there are limited serials! etc etc i think i would be nice to aerosoft to avoid piracy to change the installers, limited serials, internet conection needed, thouse staff.

 

I mean yesterday i used all my installations of the alabeo da40, the isntaller told me, serial exceeded, i wrote to alabeo i the next day was working again. As a point of view of a customer it migth be a little bit boaring but i see this kind of protection very effective!

 

what does think the aerosoft project manager about this?

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7 minutes ago, Eduard Gasull said:

another off topic! why aerosoft doesnt change the policy of the installers? to easy to crack! look pmdg or xplane addons of fligth 1 addons. there are limited serials! etc etc i think i would be nice to aerosoft to avoid piracy to change the installers, limited serials, internet conection needed, thouse staff.

 

I mean yesterday i used all my installations of the alabeo da40, the isntaller told me, serial exceeded, i wrote to alabeo i the next day was working again. As a point of view of a customer it migth be a little bit boaring but i see this kind of protection very effective!

 

what does think the aerosoft project manager about this?

 

also PMDG and F1 are crackable...the problem is to have a legal conduct or not...

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vor 1 minute, TedHead69 sagte:

Hey guys, I'm new to this theme. do you know if there is a planed release for the A330 addon ? 

 

Check the very first post in this topic ;) 

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11 hours ago, generale84 said:

 

also PMDG and F1 are crackable...the problem is to have a legal conduct or not...

I agree with you... It's principle, who we are, and how we conduct things. 

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14 hours ago, Airbus A330 said:

There is only one aircraft ( A330-300 ) and not like the A320/21 a bundle.

 

AFAIK it is not decided yet how many aircraft we will get. They are currently working on the A333RR. Nothing more is decided. Maybe we do not get other subtypes at all. Maybe we get some as a free update. Maybe we get some for an acceptable update price.

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vor 15 Stunden , Mathijs Kok sagte:

Tyrion, how can it be off topic if you comment on something I said? Don't worry. We tend to let these preview topics wonder a bit as they need to stay pleasant (marketing 101) and when needed we pull it back in. As you might know, the closer we get to a release the more ontopic it will get.

 

However, while I do question some of the pricing of some products, I do not pretend to take the high road. As explained Aerosoft has been around for 25 years, our company does not depend on the A330. As project manager I could totally screw this up and while I would expect to lose my job, Aerosoft will be fine. If you are trying to make a company survive after spending years investing in a new massive development you should do so in the way you feel is best. It's the customer who decides is that's valid. If you look at PMDG for example it is clear their 'expensive' pricing is accepted by customers. They have done it for many years and have proven to deliver what the customers are asking for. Customers feel they deliver exactly what I think is the most important. Value for money. 

 

 

 

Thanks for the explanation, Mathijs. What I still don't quite get, though, is: You seem to be worried about the current price increases on the flightsim market and you even say that you don't understand them. So, just like us, you seem to wonder about the rationale behind those increases. Why, then, do you plan to charge around $50 plus VAT (which currently equals to 55 EUR, VAT included) for the A330 and why did you raise the price for the CRJ from 40 to 50 EUR (VAT included)? Just because the other developers/companies do it as well?

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15 hours ago, Airbus A330 said:

50€ + VAT is a bit expensive... It is practically the same aircraft as the A320 (systemwise).

There is only one aircraft ( A330-300 ) and not like the A320/21 a bundle.

As I know the difference between the A330 and the A320 is that you guys will add wing flex...

There should not be a comparison with other company prices...

 

Of course I could be wrong but that is my opinion and my thoughts. I can not change anything. The main and last decision is Aerosoft's decision.

 
kind regards


 

Then you dont know the differences! I dare you to say the 330 is a tall 320 Fam. Aircraft. Even If I tend to say on the Line, that someone forgot to disconnect the N²-Pressure Hose at the 321 with V2500 and blew everything up a little larger...

The Basic Systematic. The way Airbus styles their aircraft is "similar" but not nearly the same. Its like Boeing. Take a 757 -> 767 -> 777. Even these crafts have similarities. Of course! What do you expect? The re-construction of the aircraft with every single type-certificate? With the 380 began a new era of modern aviation.

But anyways: Alone the Flight Control Systems are re-designed to fit a longer fuselage and wings which have a huge impact on flight dynamics. I even cant remember having the 320 a Trim-Tank. Even if you take a "Bundle" from 318-321? Do you know the differences? I guess not (except the obvious size)! Basically they only replaced old computer LRU's (Line Replacable Units) and put them together. And remember that the 318-321 Bundle was a pretty long-timed project as well as it started with the A320 only CFM and modelled IAE.

 

People are willing to pay 50€+ for a Cessna or a Beach. And I feel people do not know which tremendous work it is to code the Displays, Flight Dynamic Model, the exterior model (which is a huge burden for Stefan and he is doing great work). I just get the glimpse of it when helping him out with dimensions and design help. And Mathjis even said few posts ago: "  If there are parts reused from the current busses (and there will be), you will not be charged for those and get a discount on the new models "

So I guess in the end I am willing to pay for that even 80€ or so. Don't forget people are doing this for a living and YOUR sake (not exatly yours Airbus A330 but alls)

 

Greets from CGN/HAM

 

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I must say I really like Mathijs' attitude towards customers. It's a great reflection on Aerosoft.

 

Now, where's Stefan with our weekly dose of Friday morning PORN? :D

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5 minutes ago, nealmac said:

I must say I really like Mathijs' attitude towards customers. It's a great reflection on Aerosoft.

 

Now, where's Stefan with our weekly dose of Friday morning PORN? :D

 

Stefan  must be the most sought person on Fridays..? :D

 

I mean if you try googling "Aerosoft A330" on Fridays, it will auto-correct you asking "did you mean Stephan's weekly A330 update.. ?"

 

Regards

Prayog

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vor 2 Stunden , Mathijs Kok sagte:

 

Mmmm partly yes. But also because as I explained more and more customers are led to believe that low cost means low quality. Next to that the development cost are increasing with every step of realism, We now have 3 C++ developers working full time on the airbus systems, that's more then it has ever been.

 

I appreciate your honesty, Mathijs. ;-)

 

Regarding your second sentence: I for my part would never ever think that "low cost means low quality" - instead, I'm a very happy customer if I get an add-on of the quality of your A320 series at a modest price! ;) And everyone who is uncertain about the quality of an add-on usually can find lots of reviews on the internet. So I wouldn't count that as an irrefutable argument.  ;)

 

In any case, thank you for your quick reply!

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Mathijs,

 

Your comments on pricing are much appreciated. It's not only 16 year olds that struggle with the pricing of add-ons, I fell victim to a serious illness a few years ago which has limited my ability to work and left me dependent on disability benefits. As an ex-airline Operations Manager, I need aircraft that will enable the use of proper procedures and correct flight planning.  Knowing you are making acquisition of such models easier is commendable.

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16 hours ago, gmoneyprs said:

 

How do you know this?

look youtube... im not stupid. I work at cinema as audioengineer so please dont be so infantile becasue i am very against the piracy.

15 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said:

 

So you feel that having to ASK the seller of a product if you are ALLOWED to install something you PAID for on your OWN system is better than a system where a honest customer can do what he wants with the product he paid for? Even though the system prevented you for a day to use what you paid for?

 

If so, I disagree. Any protection system that make life for honest and paying customers hard is not acceptable for me personally. I do not manage products to prevent piracy, I manage them to make them as easy as possible for people who paid us. If that means there are rat bastards that do not want to pay it is something I will accept. I would feel bad if a customer would be unable to use and add-on he paid for and I find it very strange you feel that is better than how we handle things.

 

 

 

yesterday i was talking with some friens about this. For me the main problem is that the industry of culture can´t espect any honest of the people. sirously yesterday i ask to some people, if you have the chance to stol a ferrari a no one is going to say something no punish no jail, would you do it? incredible was his anwere, he said yes. The problem is when you have the chance to do it and you dont know the work behind that no" physical product" they dont care about it, they think more piracy, more the autor will be known, wich means more economical profit wich is absurde in my point of view.

Sadly my country is one of the first countries in piracy.  And Mr. Matjish i woundt unable to use my addon, i was unable to use it for one day, after a day, they reset my serial, as a customer and as a worker of the cinema industry , im ready to accept that type of politics if are more effective to protect the law.

 

again sorry my poor english

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Hello mathijs and aerosoft team here! 

 

First of all thanks for all the information and screenshots you give to us, great to have so much informations directly from the developers! As the a330 (especially the -300) is my very favorite plane i really cant wait for this bird...:wub:

 

But now to the reason i write this post: 

I would like to make a youtube video (in german) to sum up all the given informations about the a330, because i couldnt find anything like this on youtube at the moment...I would love to have all these great screenshots as background picures for the video, so could i please get the permission to use them? Would be great! 

 

Best wishes from the sunny mallorca!

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