B748_Fan 35 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Hi guys, I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but I tried a lot to install my Saitek X52 Pro again, but without success I used this stick on my old rig, and after some research I finally found a way to install this weird software successful, but all those hints didn't work on my new rig.... The guy from MadCatz support said, because the X52 works on my old system, they can't help me. So I hope anyone out there had the same problem and found a way to fix it: I've downloaded the driver from saitek, and started it with a disconnected X52. After the installer told me to connect it, I do so. (Only the LED's on the stick were on, and the display next to the trust lever was dark but on) And after clicking 'next', nothing happens. I can terminate the process but then its impossible to restart the system by software. After deleting all Saitek files in programs, temp, drivers and cleaning the registry and hardware manager, I tried again and again with different USB (2.0!!) ports at the mainboard but everytime it's the same sh**. I have an old Saitek Cyborg Evo, which works fine on the old and on the new rig as well, but its not the same like the X52 Pro Hopefully one of you can help me ! And for the future I know: 'Never change a running system' Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted March 21, 2016 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted March 21, 2016 Did you ever try to use your X52 without the Saitek driver and tried to configure it through your flightsim? I myself have the X55 and never used the Saitek drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 vor 17 Minuten, mopperle sagte: Did you ever try to use your X52 without the Saitek driver and tried to configure it through your flightsim? I myself have the X55 and never used the Saitek drivers. Yes I tried, windows installed the driver automaticly with a succesful message. The LED's and the LCD backlight are still dark. I can see the different setting possibilities via windows, but the stick doesn't accept those and the buttons didn't react Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted March 21, 2016 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted March 21, 2016 Do you have connected it trhrough an USB hub or directly connected at the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 21, 2016 Aerosoft Share Posted March 21, 2016 Uninstall the driver: Please login to display this image. Unplug the stick. Reboot. Remove all the saitek software (it truly deeply utterly sucks) Reboot. Plug device in and windows should not be installing anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Vor 1 Stunde, mopperle sagte: Do you have connected it trhrough an USB hub or directly connected at the board? No I've connected it direct to the MB vor 58 Minuten, Mathijs Kok sagte: Uninstall the driver: Please login to display this image. Unplug the stick. Reboot. Remove all the saitek software (it truly deeply utterly sucks) Reboot. Plug device in and windows should not be installing anything I'm not able to uninstall the driver: Please login to display this image. I already have removed all Saitek Software and reboot, but windows installed this driver from 2006 and the stick still doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 21, 2016 Aerosoft Share Posted March 21, 2016 I think you need to contact Saitek. Their hardware and their driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Thats right Mathijs I thought the same and I already contact Saitek last week. Today they wrote because the x52 works on my old pc they can't help me now :-( Thats the reason I start this thread and hope, someone have an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 22, 2016 Aerosoft Share Posted March 22, 2016 Try this: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3802279/Saitek_driver_problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Thank you Mathijs for the link and your patience as well! The hint to try an older driver and to disconnect the pc from the internet were new to me. So after the usual procedure of deleting rebooting etc I start the old driver, and after connecting the x52, all buttons and the LCD were on and I was able to change the settings via windows. [emoji106]But its not possible to start FSX or to shutdown/reboot the PC and the explorer.exe also had some issues after the installation. :-( Also I checked following: USB Legacy = enabled XHCI = enabled I swear with WinXP I had viruses they were less annoying than this Madcatz software :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 I can't believe it, but its done!! (And I'm, too ) After I had a small discussion with the Saitek support again, they told me the USB Chipset from Intel on my new Mainboard causes the problem..... (Yes the new hardware, not the MadCatz driver which is not able do handle new hardware ) So I bought a PCI USB 2.0 card with a NEC chipset on it and now everything works just fine!! Finally .... By the way I noticed the announcement of the new Saitek X 56.... It looks nice, too! ( http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZTSS3O ) I hope the drivers for it will be better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted March 31, 2016 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted March 31, 2016 Interesting finding, thanks for reporting back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick24 15 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hello Phillip, interesting, I am using X52 Motherboard/ Chipset Intel !!! The current driver is from 02.02.2016. No Problem without PCI USB 2.0 card with a NEC chipset. (X52/X52pro driver are identical) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Tom A320 4915 Posted March 31, 2016 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted March 31, 2016 33 minutes ago, Rick24 said: Motherboard/ Chipset Intel !!! The current driver is from 02.02.2016. No Problem without PCI USB 2.0 card with a NEC chipset. I am pretty sure the Saitek support said or at least meant to say that there are certain Intel chipset combinations known for causing this problem and of course not all Intel chipsets in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 I am pretty sure the Saitek support said or at least meant to say that there are certain Intel chipset combinations known for causing this problem and of course not all Intel chipsets in general. Yes thats right Tom, they said the problem is with this Mainboard with a Z170 Chipset only. My old board had an Intel Chipset, too and the stick works fine (after the correct installing procedure of course) Maybe they didn't adjust the driver for this chipset yet... But he also said I could try to change from Win7 to 10 which could probably help, but at this point i'm not sure if I want to change now :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick24 15 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted April 1, 2016 Aerosoft Share Posted April 1, 2016 16 hours ago, B748_Fan said: By the way I noticed the announcement of the new Saitek X 56.... It looks nice, too! ( http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZTSS3O ) I hope the drivers for it will be better... As far as I can see that's a X55 with more colors. Now the X55 is very good now (*the first production run was garbage) but more colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Tom A320 4915 Posted April 1, 2016 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted April 1, 2016 I also had a look yesterday. Beside the colors there are two switches replaced by analog sticks, one on the joystick and one on the thrust lever. So two more axis. The X-55 already have more axis that I can make use of, so the X-56 is at least not for me. But I assume there are games out there that can really make use out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B748_Fan 35 Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 Maybe some combat games or similar.... But I'm happy now with my X52 Pro, enough axis, buttons and so on, which makes it possible to run FSX nearly without the keyboard or mouse. And to be honest, as I saw the price for the X-55, I thought that this would be to expensive for me and I decided to spend the money into some great addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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