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Honestly, i have mixed feelings about Aerosoft way of fixing Airbus problems.

I think it would be better if Aerosoft team could take their time to make, check/verify and then publish serious service pack instead hotfixes released every few days which are not properly checked and "supposed" or "probably" will fix some issues.

( just my private opinion )

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Honestly, i have mixed feelings about Aerosoft way of fixing Airbus problems.

I think it would be better if Aerosoft team could take their time to make, check/verify and then publish serious service pack instead hotfixes released every few days which are not properly checked and "supposed" or "probably" will fix some issues.

( just my private opinion )

Well, you are correct BUT!!!

Everybody (including myself) shouting for the availability of a new feature, in this case the CFD.

So i believe that from one point of view, we are "pushing" them a little bit for an early release, with all the known consequences...

Off course i don't like faulty things and i agree with what you mentioned before, but from the other hand, we have 4 hot fixes in just two weeks and very soon a new build!!

So i cannot "accuse" them for ignoring also!!

Finally, as a software developer, i believe that "Errors makes, God and the ones that don't work" :)

Regards,

Mike

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  • Deputy Sheriffs

The name hotfix says it actually already. It's done with a hot needle and the purpose is to help people in desperate need. They are in no way meant as an update. People who don't have any problems shouldn't install hotfixes at all! And this is true for all kind of software, not just AS buses.

Of course AS will gather together all hotfixes into a new full release. But this is not done in a day or week...

I think it would be better if Aerosoft team could take their time to make, check/verify and then publish serious service pack instead hotfixes released every few days which are not properly checked and "supposed" or "probably" will fix some issues.

If a customer problem can't be reproduced then a manufacturer can only guess what the reason might be and can therefore only provide a "supposed" or "probable" fix.

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The name hotfix says it actually already. It's done with a hot needle and the purpose is to help people in desperate need. They are in no way meant as an update. People who don't have any problems shouldn't install hotfixes at all! And this is true for all kind of software, not just AS buses.

Of course AS will gather together all hotfixes into a new full release. But this is not done in a day or

In my opinion, this is just contradictory. If as Tom A320 said, the next update (let's say 1.31) will gather together all the hotfixes, it would be exactly as installing all of them (the hotfixes) as they became available. The purpose of a 1.31 version would be to keep every user on the same track, with one single product version.

I would recommend everybody to install all the hotfixes and "at the end" updating to the next release (1.31).

Edward

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No, the difference between a hotfix and a service pack or major release is much more testing. That's what I meant with hot needle. Not only from the programing perspective but also from the testing perspective it's done with a hot needle to get it out to the customer as quickly as possible.

Again, that's why it is called hotfix.

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No, the difference between a hotfix and a service pack or major release is much more testing. That's what I meant with hot needle. Not only fro the programing perspective but also from the testing perspective it's done with a hot needle to get it out to the customer as quickly as possible.

Again, that's why it is called hotfix.

If that were true, there wouldn't be any need for hot fixes, would there?

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If that were true, there wouldn't be any need for hot fixes, would there?

No, that's not true.

Let me give an example:

The day before the SP3 release I flew 3 flights in the A321IAE and didn't experience a single ATHR oscillation issue.

In fact I didn't see such an issue at all yet and so do all our testers.

Please refer to Mathijs thread why there will always be unforeseen bugs in software (of any type!) for a more detailed explanation.

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If that were true, there wouldn't be any need for hot fixes, would there?

Yes. Under the hypotheses of omniscient developers and testers. But some times you have not certainties, but suspicions.. Then, you issue a hotfix to see if your assupmtions are correct. Once you know where to fine tune, and after a joint and careful test, you issue a new version.

This is an example of hotfix utility. But not the only one.

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In the end this is software, and there are certain common names used in the software industry:

Hotfixes / Customer Fixes

Addresses usually a problem reported by a few customers.

Many companies decide to provide such fixes directly to the customers who are having the problem and not making them public. This makes a hotfix a customer fix.

Hotfixes / Customer Fixes are usually single files which have to be installed manually without the help of an installer.

Hotfixes / Customer Fixes don't see much testing at all, maybe some rudimentary testing. That's it.

Because of this huge lack of testing side effects that are introduced by the fix will not show up before the fix is installed at the customer.

That's why companies provide hotfixes / customer fixes usually only "at your own risk".

And also that's why there is a golden rule: never install hotfixes if you don't have any of the addressed problems. You would loose a thoroughly tested product and replace it by one with a very uncertain quality status.

Service Packs

A service pack addresses a huger number of fixes.

Usually a SP gathers together a lot of hotfixes or customer fixes.

A SP usually comes as complete new version together with an installer. So there is no manual file handling.

Unlike hotfixes / customer fixes a service pack sees nearly the same amount of testing as a full release.

In the past service packs included just fixes. Over time companies decided to also deliver new functionality with them, beside the fixes.

Full Releases (Major or Minor)

A full release includes all fixes to previous versions but also new functionality.

A release sees the most amount of testing, as new features will be tested as also all/most previously existing features.

A release comes with an installer. No manual file handling necessary.

It is common practice in the software industry that a company cuts the support for older versions (releases). The number of releases being currently supported by companies of course differ, but 2 is a widely spread number. Versions within the support time frame will get hotfixes / customer fixes and from time to time also service packs. Versions outside of the support time frame will get nothing of that any more.

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Under my humble opinion, I can have no complaints with this or with Aerosoft Airbus. Has this day, is the plane that most flight, the cheaper and more attention to that place in his plane. This is like F1, if the car is new is best to give developers time to make their improvements without pressing. I hope this review will not offend anyone, it is my humble opinion.

Greetings to all and excuse my English is not my language

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Hi

This project was set to be something, and ended up being something completely more advanced, and for the same cheap price, and why?, because the customers wanted this and that and why not add those and of course the developers' these. I welcome all of the hotfixes and anything else the developers may wish because at the end we are so satisfied with this beauty.

Since some issues are not experienced by the developers, could it be possible to know what kind of computers you use, settings etc, because I feel we may have powerful pc but you have super pcs hehe. Thank you gentlemen, flies wonderfully.

Jead

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