gunther318x 3 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 The installation instructions for 1.3 published here tell you to delete all the "Airbus*" folders from your <sim>\Aerosoft folder. However, this folder also contains your NAVIGRAPH data (if you have purchased it). I have purchased a single NAVIGRAPH data set (AIRAC 1503) to have all my add-ons using the same data. However, NAVIGRAPH won't allow you to download old data sets so now I have all my add-ons on 1503, except the newly updated Airbus 1.3. Now my options are to buy another NAVIGRAPH AIRAC or use the NAVDATAPRO set provided by Aerosoft, which is 1504 ... exactly the kind of scenario I want to avoid. So BEWARE when deleting things!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emi 5161 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 That's exactly why Navigraph tells you to backup your old installers. If you had kept the installer of the AIRAC you could use it again and simply reinstall the old AIRAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther318x 3 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 I actually read a LOT of manuals/instructions (and frankly should have ignored the ones to delete the <sim>\Airbus* folders that came with SP3) but if one would read every bit of information out there on every add-on one is likely to buy then one wouldn't actually get much flying done. So maybe Navigraph "told" me somewhere ... and thanks for letting me know that they did, much good that does me know. But I've started this thread so maybe someone else who is as generally careless as I am avoids that trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Tom A320 4915 Posted April 18, 2015 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted April 18, 2015 Emi has a valid point. I am always surprised how many people ask here for old installers as they obviously do not store them. I wonder how this happens. In my opinion it can only mean that people just click on links and don't care too much about what they are doing. But that's no-one else's fault than the own one. Maybe this is a good moment to overthink the own habits and store installers properly away after download. I always download and store installers to their proper place in my archive before I start them from there. I never start them directly from a link on a Web page. Although that would be an easy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther318x 3 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks for the advise Tom! I keep installers for virtually everything I ever bought. And I even have the NAVIGRAPH installer, even though that can be downloaded for nothing. The problem is that the AIRAC dataset isn't an "installer". Yes, there is a backup button, and I clearly SHOULD have used that, but the Navigraph interface isn't all that intuitive. And yes, no-one else is at fault but ME. I'm not asking for anything, I'm just pointing our the potential trap to other users. And thanks again for your valued input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersu 23 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Just for your future information - the Navigraph auto-installer does have a backup button which can be set 'on' permanently, and in addition you can download manual installers for each dataset. Don't blame Navigraph or Aerosoft for your carelessness. DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Tom A320 4915 Posted April 18, 2015 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted April 18, 2015 Günther, please don't get me wrong. Neither I nor Emi were blaming you. Nothing like that! Just like you posted your experience here to warn others from doing the same mistake (thanks for that by the way!) my intention was the same. I didn't wanted to blame you but wanted others who read this to think about their way of doing things if there might be chance for improvements. So, no hard feelings and irony here, please. In the end we all share a quite complex hobby and just try to help each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAVData 8 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Hallo Günther, hi guys, my question is: what Navigraph installer you use 1. the manual-one from the website (you must download every addon in a single file) 2. through the "FMS Data Manager" (update all your installed addons in one step) To #1: When you download the single-file version, you can save the zip-file into a own folder for backup. So, you can collect all your downloaded AIRACs and you can re-install it, whenever you want - very simple, very efficent ... the files have no "expiration date" To #2: When you use the FMS Data Manager (it´s the GUI like the one for Aerosoft NDP), you have the possibility to set a backup flag, the location where you want to backup the files and how many backups you want to store. When you have set this, every old cycle will be backuped before the new one will be overwrite the old data. This process will be done, when you update your files, automatically. Simple I guess - no user interaction. Now, when you want to restore an old cycle, you can do this for every addon and you can select which backup (AIRAC) want you restore ... Conclusio: For me, it´s very simple to backup your "old" cycles in both ways. One is a manually process and the other one an automatic process - the question for me is now, what do you expect more? What I know is, that Aerosoft don´t support any backups and you can do this only complete manually from the addon-directories, which needs a little bit knowledge about the paths and the structure of each addon. So, the question is: What do you exactly need? Cheers & thank you, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther318x 3 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks Richard. I'm used the FMS Data Manager, and the "always backup before update" option is ticked. But I only had the 1503 AIRAC, so there never was an "update" per se I guess. I do have a backup file it seems, something named f1e5719a-dac0-4ad0-b261-289e159b2a36_20150324173636.bak, but when I click the restore button for the Aerosoft Airbus it just tells me "no backup found", so whatever is in that .bak file it obviously isn't for the Airbus. I also had a look at the Navigraph website, to see if I could find the manual download, but my account just says "you do not have access to our FMS data". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther318x 3 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 My thanks to Richard at Navigraph for his assistance in resolving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Jonas S. 466 Posted April 18, 2015 Aerosoft Share Posted April 18, 2015 How did you solve this then? Maybe it helps other users to solve their problems too! And as always Richard: Thanks for jumping in here! Jonas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther318x 3 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 By offering to provide me with the deleted AIRAC for the Airbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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