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Takeoff without FD A/THR

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SAT    0

good day,

just a question. When taking off with FDs off, the FCOM says that A/THR would not arm and you have to manually engage A/THR after selecting the speed on climb out.

The AS arms the A/THR. changeable?

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kaktus018    7

Why would you takeoff with FD off anyway?

This is not normal operation and thus you can't expect it to be correctly modeled in the AS Airbuses.

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SAT    0

Why would you takeoff with FD off anyway?

This is not normal operation and thus you can't expect it to be correctly modeled in the AS Airbuses.

Well, a visual depature maybe? And it is a procedure!

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kaktus018    7

For a visual departure the FD is used as well as it provides you with the pitch information calculated by SRS (which is vital to follow). You basically just do your lateral navigation visually.

And yes, it is a procedure, but an abnormal one (e.g. raw data takeoff).

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D192    82

A no-FD, no-AT takeoff is a procedure but an abnormal one, used only when FD or A/T is INOP and not part of the airline's MEL.

Thus, the AS Airbuses model normal operating procedures, so I doubt this would be covered.

What you could do (as a workaround) is leave the FD off, then move the thrust levers full forward, then immediately hit the A/T button to turn off A/T and take manual control of thrust.

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Now would be a great time for me to b*tch about "the old days" and "flying by the seat of your pants". Its good to get down to basics once and a while and just FLY THE AIRPLANE. Real pilots do it all the time. Some even leave the automation all the way off until cruising altitude. Thats what flying is all about anyways right? :D

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kaktus018    7

Real pilots do it all the time. Some even leave the automation all the way off until cruising altitude. Thats what flying is all about anyways right? :D

...real soon-no-longer pilots maybe. If you want to experience "pure" flying, than an airbus is probably the worst choice for you. You'd be better off bush flying a Porter or Twin Otter...

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