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Sabre10

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I'm not sure what section of the forum this question belongs to, so I'm asking it here: what exactly triggers FO to run Approach checklist? Seemingly (and correct me if I'm wrong) it's triggered by passing D(eceleration) point on the ND. If so I'm not sure how to start it then if flying manually under vectors of ATC (rc4 in my case). I've never been able to trigger it flying manually, and there's no way to start it by pushing buttons on the right MCDU.

Please advise,

Thanks,

Sabre10.

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I'm not sure what section of the forum this question belongs to, so I'm asking it here: what exactly triggers FO to run Approach checklist? Seemingly (and correct me if I'm wrong) it's triggered by passing D(eceleration) point on the ND. If so I'm not sure how to start it then if flying manually under vectors of ATC (rc4 in my case). I've never been able to trigger it flying manually, and there's no way to start it by pushing buttons on the right MCDU.

Please advise,

Thanks,

Sabre10.

Try setting flaps to 1.

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No, flaps 1 does not work in my scenario (vectors to final not NAV). I've been advised the developers are gooing to modify activation of the approach checklist

Thanks,

Sabre10.

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The activation of the APPR CL is independent from setting flaps. It is just based on the distance to the selected runway (like the DECEL POINT). If you are flying a VECTOR APPR you should delete (like it is RL SOP) to waypoints in your flightplan you already passed or which are behind your current position. This is SOP to get precise predictions. Then the distance to the runways will correctly calculated and the APPR CL starts at the right moment. Another SOP is (after you got vectors to the localizer / glideslope) to use DIR TO to the FINAL together with RADIAL IN).

The calculation problems when not deleting those waypoints are already solved and the solution will be released with SP3. There are also still some issued with DIR TO and RADIAL IN but those are also already solved.

Regards,

Rolf

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The activation of the APPR CL is independent from setting flaps. It is just based on the distance to the selected runway (like the DECEL POINT). If you are flying a VECTOR APPR you should delete (like it is RL SOP) to waypoints in your flightplan you already passed or which are behind your current position. This is SOP to get precise predictions. Then the distance to the runways will correctly calculated and the APPR CL starts at the right moment. Another SOP is (after you got vectors to the localizer / glideslope) to use DIR TO to the FINAL together with RADIAL IN).

Rolf, what do you want to fix here? It works very well as you suggested plus this method complies with the realistic SOP. What could be better than that?

Thanks,

Sabre10

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Hi,

it should also work if the FPLAN is not °cleared°......... and the SOP for using DIR TO and RADIAL IN does not work as in RL

Regards,

Rolf

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Sorry to relight this topic again,. Is there some way we can activate the Approach CL to be active again? I say this in context with a program I am using called FSI Panel. This program basically establishes an aircraft at a predetermined approach fix or in proximity to a STAR location. When the aircraft is balanced and "flying" stable, control is given back to the pilot to set up the approach STAR CDU, or in the case of a simple straight in approach, simply fly.

When I use the AirbusX, I am not given the opportunity to use the Check Lists because the aircraft has been magically placed at the approach point.

I appreciate this version has program code limitations etc, but could consideration be given to having a Approach state be placed into the right CDU?

Regards

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Hi Ged,

I fully understand your wish but at the moment this feature is not on our list, as until now you are the first one asking for it and we have much more important things on our to-do- list for the final SP3. But with SP3 you will have the possibility to save a flight with all necessary data (Simulator and Aerosoft Airbus) at any position / state you like and to load it again. This mean if you want to try an approach various times just save the flight before T/D or already during descent and after loading then you change STARs and RWYs as much as you like...... No need to use FSI Panel......

Regards,

Rolf

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Hi Ged,

I fully understand your wish but at the moment this feature is not on our list, as until now you are the first one asking for it and we have much more important things on our to-do- list for the final SP3. But with SP3 you will have the possibility to save a flight with all necessary data (Simulator and Aerosoft Airbus) at any position / state you like and to load it again. This mean if you want to try an approach various times just save the flight before T/D or already during descent and after loading then you change STARs and RWYs as much as you like...... No need to use FSI Panel......

Regards,

Rolf

Thanks Rolf,

Yes, I thought the same that I can save the aircraft state at a given location/fix. I was using FSI Panel to practice a landing before I carried out the full flight. Thank you for your ongoing development of the Airbus, and I fully understand your priorities for SP3. Every time I fly the airbus, I enjoy it so much. The checklist feature with pilot flying and pilot monitoring is quite addictive, making me interested in this feature for other aircraft.

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But remember there are certain Airbus CL functions (like STEEP- or HIGH-ALT-APPROACHES) which are currently to my knowledge not covered by FS CREW......

Regards,

Rolf

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