AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 When I initiate a Go-Around procedure, the aircraft climbs to its GA Path perfectly but, I get "More Drag" message on PFD. I don't why it's showing. I recorded this problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUbT49FGPwk&feature=youtu.be Tested with Airbus V1.15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Che. 1601 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 When I initiate a Go-Around procedure, the aircraft climbs to its GA Path perfectly but, I get "More Drag" message on PFD. I don't why it's showing. I recorded this problem: Tested with Airbus V1.15. Why did you activate approach phase so early after go around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 +1 OP CLB + approach phase......that doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Why did you activate approach phase so early after go around? When should i activate Approach Phase then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 First you have to do the clean up after the go around and climb to the missed approach altitude. If you active the approach phase with the flaps extended the A320 wants to reduce to F speed which is way too low for a new approach, ATC etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 First you have to do the clean up after the go around and climb to the missed approach altitude. If you active the approach phase with the flaps extended the A320 wants to reduce to F speed which is way too low for a new approach, ATC etc etc. But If I continue climbing, without activating the approach phase, my Airbus gets "TOGALK"(ALPHA FLOOR) message on PFD. the AXE copilot sets flap 1 at Thrust Reduction, that's why, I get "TOGALK" message on PFD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 TOGA lock has nothing to do with the approach phase and it doesn't change alpha prot and alpha floor. With AP engaged and the correct flap retraction schedule the A320 should never ever go into TOGA lock!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 So help me out here. As soon as I set my thrust levers to TOGA, I do: gear up and flap 3, right? At Thrust Reduction Altitude, I set to flap 1 and continue to climb? Thanks for you patience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 1.As soon as I set my thrust levers to TOGA, I do: gear up and flap 3, right? 2. At Thrust Reduction Altitude, I set to flap 1 and continue to climb? 1. Correct. (or in case of a conf 3 appr flaps 2) 2. Only if the thrust reduction altitude is identical with the acceleration altitude (which it normally is). Easy to recognize because the the managed speed jumps up to a much higher speed. If it's only the thrust reduction altitude the speed bug stays at the same position. Passing F speed you can retract the flaps from 3 to 1 and passing S speed from 1 to 0. Hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 I 1. Correct. (or in case of a conf 3 appr flaps 2) 2. Only if the thrust reduction altitude is identical with the acceleration altitude (which it normally is). Easy to recognize because the the managed speed jumps up to a much higher speed. If it's only the thrust reduction altitude the speed bug stays at the same position. Passing F speed you can retract the flaps from 3 to 1 and passing S speed from 1 to 0. Hope that helps I did what you said. At Thrust Reduction, I set flap 1, but no success. Look this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFuPtKV84o&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emi 5161 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Your Autopilot is certainly commanding a far to low speed here. Is the Approach phase active or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 it is not active. Since the guy above said me not to so early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Now that's a weird one. That certainly shouldn't happen....but even with the actived approach phase the speed shouldn't drop below S speed with flaps 1 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Now that's a weird one. That certainly shouldn't happen....but even with the actived approach phase the speed shouldn't drop below S speed with flaps 1 !!! Can you test if this happens with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Sure thing, can you confirm that there's an actual missed approach procedure that you are following? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 There is. look at the pic: Chart: http://www.aisweb.aer.mil.br/download/?arquivo=14cb2ce8-3de8-1030-95e7-72567f175e3a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots88 7 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 please help version 1.15 no landing checklist , no approach checklist, no geardown, no flaps it´s a bad version , i prefer 1.10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 @ AdrianoN Just tested, I've got the same problem at this airport. @ roots88 please don't hijack this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Too bad. Not sure what it is!. I go for bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbus339 129 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Has someone tested if this happens only for this procedure or the AP behaves like this in every GA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 It seems like at Thrust Reduction, the power stops for a few secs and that moment, the speed drops a lot, because the aircraft continues to climb to GA altitude, leading to FLOOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- 170 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Observation......go around accelerations and flap retraction works perfect if you are in selected HDG. Seems it doesn't work in managed NAV. During one go around (managed) the A320 started going in circles instead of following the missed approach track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbus339 129 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Reading all this comments I'm a bit disappointed as I was expecting V1.15 mainly for this feature ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 @ AdrianoN Just tested, I've got the same problem at this airport. @ roots88 please don't hijack this thread. Do you think Josuha is gonna fix this bug? I'm new on this forum. I hope he sees this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianoN 75 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Observation......go around accelerations and flap retraction works perfect if you are in selected HDG. Seems it doesn't work in managed NAV. During one go around (managed) the A320 started going in circles instead of following the missed approach track. Do you think Josuha is gonna fix this bug? I'm new on this forum. I hope he sees this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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