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Posted 02 April 2010 - 17:02

Hello Folks,

If you have any issues with Rotterdam then please post them on this thread.
If they are graphical then please also attach a screenshot complete with the FSX Co-ordinates showing.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 11:14

ILS frequency is 111.9 - should be 110.9 MHz according to charts from AIP Netherlands.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 11:16

ILS frequency is 111.9 - should be 110.9 MHz according to charts from AIP Netherlands.


See the FAQ in the manual for this!
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 11:55

Oops! :blush:
I wonder what's the real ILS frequency at EHVB then, an if it's possible to fix it using AFCADs for Rotterdam and Valkenburg?
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 22:49

Sorry, maybe a bit off-topic but is this scenery also coming out for FS2004?
Otherwise I have to upgrade to FSX, and all my paid sceneries for FS2004 would be lost.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 09:51

hello Shaun,

great scenery, but... I can't get the traffic to work, like Innsbruck and I get unexpected collisions when parked on the apron. I don't know if the luggage-car is included in the Aerosoft-scenery ( I have all the airport-traffic switched off) but the wheels are half sunk in the tarmac. besides that, wheels shine through the aircraft...

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but what a great scenery!!! my compliments

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 16:44

Sorry, maybe a bit off-topic but is this scenery also coming out for FS2004?
Otherwise I have to upgrade to FSX, and all my paid sceneries for FS2004 would be lost.

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Sorry, this is totally impossible for FS2004. just too much detail, it would simply not compile (or we would have to loose so much detail it would not nearly be the same scenery).
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 16:46

hello Shaun,

great scenery, but... I can't get the traffic to work, like Innsbruck and I get unexpected collisions when parked on the apron. I don't know if the luggage-car is included in the Aerosoft-scenery ( I have all the airport-traffic switched off) but the wheels are half sunk in the tarmac. besides that, wheels shine through the aircraft...

but what a great scenery!!! my compliments

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Jan from Holland


Jan almost sure you got some other scenery covering the same area that conflicts.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 17:39

Jan almost sure you got some other scenery covering the same area that conflicts.


I think so too: are you perhaps using the popular freeware AFCAD for EHAM by Jim Vile (downloaded from AVSIM)? My taxisigns and service vehicles were all over the place since this AFCAD for EHAM also includes one for EHRD (and also other Dutch airports). Using Airport Design Editor you can delete the EHRD part in this AFCAD so that it won't interfere with the Rotterdam X scenery.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 18:51

I think so too: are you perhaps using the popular freeware AFCAD for EHAM by Jim Vile (downloaded from AVSIM)? My taxisigns and service vehicles were all over the place since this AFCAD for EHAM also includes one for EHRD (and also other Dutch airports). Using Airport Design Editor you can delete the EHRD part in this AFCAD so that it won't interfere with the Rotterdam X scenery.


No such thing in FSX, FS9 is loaded with add ons, yes, but FSX has only EHRD, Lelystad, Sion and Innsbruck as add on... that is what is baffeling me.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 19:02

sorry, forgot to add the picture of the sunken wheels. here you go, I hope it makes things more clear :) Just to make clear once again, I don't have any (Dutch) freeware on FSX. :)

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 10:58

ILS frequency is 111.9 - should be 110.9 MHz according to charts from AIP Netherlands.



See the FAQ in the manual for this!



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I wonder what's the real ILS frequency at EHVB then, an if it's possible to fix it using AFCADs for Rotterdam and Valkenburg?



This problem can be solved by modifying the EHVB (Valkenburg Navy - closed now) afcad. Change the ILS frequency to 0 or something and save the afcad into the addon scenery/scenery. Then you can use EHRD ILS at 110.9 without any problems (at least this works with FS9, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with FSX).
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 17:41

update for below message: after I changed all graphic related settings (recomended settings in the manual for Rotterdam X) in FSX, and restarted FSX. the problem was solved.


Hi there,

A very nice add-on for FSX ! thanks !

I discovered one strange problem with the 'Flight one ATR72-500' plane,
while in the rotterdam X area, between a altitude of +/- 300 feet till 1400 feet, the view outsite the virtual cockpit is gone, only a blue screen...!
i tested all other aircrafts i have; no problem. to be clear, this is only in the Rotterdam X area, i fly already for many hours with this plane, never had problems with the view.

I tested sone settings for the Flight One ATR72, like in the manager, set everything to default, or other colors, low res settings, nothing helps.

who else have this with the Flight One ATR72 ?


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Posted 05 April 2010 - 21:33

Great scenery! I've been recording lots of VFR traffic, lot of fun. The only thing is, you included the hangar of Vliegclub Rotterdam, but not the actual club building, where we do planning and drink coffee etc. Right now you put trees there. Otherwise, great!
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 13:11

Great scenery! I've been recording lots of VFR traffic, lot of fun. The only thing is, you included the hangar of Vliegclub Rotterdam, but not the actual club building, where we do planning and drink coffee etc. Right now you put trees there. Otherwise, great!


That's right. Someone with access to the airport took a really, really good set of photos that made this scenery possible. Unfortunately the club house was the only part left out in those photos, although I don't think it's very obvious due the fact that it's mostly hidden behind trees and bushes. If someone (you?) ever happens to be able to take good photos from all sides of that building, it would be certainly possible to consider it for an update. :)

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 13:13

update for below message: after I changed all graphic related settings (recomended settings in the manual for Rotterdam X) in FSX, and restarted FSX. the problem was solved.


Thanks for letting us know you solved it. I guess this is was something memory (RAM?) related. A scenery can't cause a blue screen for all I know, but the ATR is a rather demanding aircraft and together with Rotterdam you used so much memory that I assume your system "stumbled" over some defect part of RAM. Only a guess but that would explain it.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 13:19

Oops! :blush:
I wonder what's the real ILS frequency at EHVB then, an if it's possible to fix it using AFCADs for Rotterdam and Valkenburg?


Yes, that idea was mentioned by some beta testers as well, but I don't want to change the ILS frequency of another airport than the one in this package. The reason is simple:
There are several addons replacing and/or editing AFCAD files like MyTraffic, Netherlands 2000 and so on... If I change the frequency of one other airport (Valkenburg in this case) to something else, I could cause problems with those other addons. That's the reason why it was decided to give Rotterdam a fictional (but similar) frequency and I think that's the best we could do to make everyone happy.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 13:25

sorry, forgot to add the picture of the sunken wheels. here you go, I hope it makes things more clear :) Just to make clear once again, I don't have any (Dutch) freeware on FSX. :)


You're right. People who are using the EHAM AFCAD freeware, also have duplicated taxisigns in Rotterdam, which you don't.
As a developer I don't have any influence on the ground vehicles placed around gates and ramps by FSX, I don't even have an option to exclude them, which I would prefer because they don't look realistic in Rotterdam. That's why we suggest on the manual to deactivate apron service vehicles and use AES instead.
Why those wheels are sunken, I really have no idea but can guess: FSX happens to be really strange sometimes when is comes to airports that are below sea level. For example the taxilight effects had to be programmed in a very special way to avoid them being displayed at 0 MSL (and thus hovering about 3ft above ground in Rotterdam).

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 22:05

hi guys

i just want to know if aes support is expected for rotterdam x...?
juste read te complete english manual and i didn't saw that information...

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 11:38

i just want to know if aes support is expected for rotterdam x...?


Yes, it is. See here:
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=33897

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I have problems with the trees:

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 12:10

I have problems with the trees:


Hi Michael,

I can't confirm that. No matter if in DX9 or DX10 mode: The transparent areas of the tree textures are displayed correctly, which leads me to the conclusion that you have an issue with your video card driver. A newer version might help here (but due to the odds of video drivers sometimes the only thing that works is a specific older version... very complicated...)

Anyway: This isn't your only issue. You also seem to have an AFCAD file that conflicts with Rotterdam because your taxilines and runway markers are displayed twice. In most cases this is caused by a freeware AFCAD file for Amsterdam that also covers Rotterdam.

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 13:38

Sascha, I got it:

Some time ago I installed compressed default tree textures into the FSX texture directory. I think that the Rotterdam installer takes the trees from there and puts it into the Rotterdam texture directory. Now that I put back the default trees in both directories (!), all looks fine.

As regards the double runway markers, you are absolutely right: I have indeed changed the default FSX EHRD AFCAD and forgotten to remove this file. Thank you.

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 18:21

Some time ago I installed compressed default tree textures into the FSX texture directory. I think that the Rotterdam installer takes the trees from there and puts it into the Rotterdam texture directory. Now that I put back the default trees in both directories (!), all looks fine.

As regards the double runway markers, you are absolutely right: I have indeed changed the default FSX EHRD AFCAD and forgotten to remove this file. Thank you.


Good to see both issues solved. Thanks for letting us know. :)

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:40

Hi you all :)

since my last post I did a complete reinstall of FSX with all the updates, did update my Nvidia-drivers up to the latest and did only install Rotterdam to exclude every possibility that a add on scenery could conflict with Rotterdam. with following result:

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yes the A/C is a add on, but that should result in sinking luggage cars into the tarmac... Besides that, the sunken wheels are shining through everything, including buildings and standard A/C. Anyone has the same little problem?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 13:23

Yes, it is. See here:
http://www.forum.aer...showtopic=33897

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Great news
Thanx for replying sascha

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Are these crosses supposed to be there?

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:18

Are these crosses supposed to be there?


Yes, don't ask me what they mean though...

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yes the A/C is a add on, but that should result in sinking luggage cars into the tarmac... Besides that, the sunken wheels are shining through everything, including buildings and standard A/C. Anyone has the same little problem?

cheerio

Jan



Jan, search the AVSIM or FlightSim library for: FSX Bagcart Fix. It's a little FSX glitch, that seemingly survived two SP's :lol:

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Congrats on the EHRD scenery, i like it a lot! Purchased Sunday morning, and at 12 o'clock ready installed... Dinggg Donggg :lol:

One question or request i still have. Will there be a update for the DX10 compatibility. I have other airports (Aerosoft's also) which don't have this bleeding tarmac problem in DX10. Not the biggest problem btw, i can very well accept it the way it is (just minor flickering). I would rather bring the ground/apron at night to your attention, which (together with the lights on the poles) doesn't appear in DX10 preview.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 10:27

Congrats on the EHRD scenery, i like it a lot! Purchased Sunday morning, and at 12 o'clock ready installed... Dinggg Donggg :lol:

One question or request i still have. Will there be a update for the DX10 compatibility. I have other airports (Aerosoft's also) which don't have this bleeding tarmac problem in DX10. Not the biggest problem btw, i can very well accept it the way it is (just minor flickering). I would rather bring the ground/apron at night to your attention, which (together with the lights on the poles) doesn't appear in DX10 preview.

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Sorry Gerrit, not possible. DX10 is not able to display the high resolution used. Making a complete version with lower resolution textures just for DX10 seems to be counterproductive.
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 17:40

Congrats on the EHRD scenery, i like it a lot! Purchased Sunday morning, and at 12 o'clock ready installed... Dinggg Donggg :lol:


Little side note: If you fly by the church east of the airport you'll hear a "Ding Dong" between 12:00 and 13:00 local time. :)

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Yes, very nice touch :)

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 12:36

I've solved the ILS frequency-issue.

EHRD ILS is now 110.90 and I deleted the EHVB ILS, so now it's an orphan Localizer (glide slopes can be deleted).
I did this with Airport Design Editor 9x.
So for people who don't use EHVB and want use the real frequencies for EHRD, then this is the perfect solution.
Otherwise, you can use the default files

You can download the modified here (with a README):
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 21:53

Little side note: If you fly by the church east of the airport you'll hear a "Ding Dong" between 12:00 and 13:00 local time. :)

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Question Sascha does the scenery interact with simconnect ?


No.

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#38 Sasa

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:45

I hope it's okay with the copyrights and stuff…Posted Image


I didn't check it, but as long as you only use my edited AF2 file an no other files from my scnery it's ok.
Thanks a lot! :)
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 15:10

Yes Sasa, I've only edited your AF2-file (and the default APX49130.bgl-file)
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 20:30

Hi there!

There seems to be some warehouse autogen buildings missing on short final to runway 24.

This is just a minor thing but it would be nice to have the 3D structures that close to the runway.

Best regards Mikael.

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