awesome 22 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 So we have to operate the autopilot the way we always did it with the default airlines? I mean no complex things just altitude hold, VS hold, HDG hold, LOC, APP etc? Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop 1 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 -> Aerosoft Airbus (from what ive seen) > Very good visuals. The cockpit is a master piece. > Systens (from what ive seen still being modeled but do seem to include some basic stuff) > The project is gonna definately be a very good Airbus for FSX -> Airsimmer Airbus > Very good systems. Several reviews made by real world pilots say it all. > Due to the complexity of the addon it has a slower development time...but have no doubts its as real as it gets. What about the Wilco bus? I'm thinking the Aerosoft one would be a better polished FSX version of the Wilco product, rather than the Airsimmer Basic which is essentially a very complex A320 with missing FMGC features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 So we have to operate the autopilot the way we always did it with the default airlines? I mean no complex things just altitude hold, VS hold, HDG hold, LOC, APP etc? Is that correct? No thats NOT correct ! You will get: Heading aquire and hold LNAV NAV aquire and hold (VOR) LOC aquire and hold Altitude aquire and hold VNAV (Simplified offcourse) APP Speed hold Mach hold Very much the same as the real Airbus. Only the VNAV function won´t be 100% authentic. Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 What about the Wilco bus? I'm thinking the Aerosoft one would be a better polished FSX version of the Wilco product, rather than the Airsimmer Basic which is essentially a very complex A320 with missing FMGC features. The Wilco and Aerosoft Airbus has nothing in common. We are talking 3 seperate products. Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimPilot767 157 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Finn, two more questions please: (sorry if this was answered before) a ) Will the Airbus have operative throttle detents, and if yes, will there be the option to insert the FLEX TEMP anywhere to make use of the FLX detent for takeoff? (All airliners use derated takeoff thrust via a simulated higher OAT to be less noisy and save the engines. In Boeing´s FMS this is called "D-TO". But it´s not allowed to "flex" more than 25% of maximum takeoff thrust.) b ) Will there be a (maybe simplified) possibility to activate and confirm the "approach phase" via the MCDU or otherwise? Thank you very much, Regards, Timo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hi Timo The Airbus will have the detends modelled, but the level of realism we can add to this is still not known. I would like to add Flex temp. as an option too, cause as You said, this is what normally is done in real life. I´m not the coder for the MCDU, so I´m not sure what will be implementet, but some additional functions (pages), apart from the flightplan, are definitly needed, like Rad/Nav, Cruise altitude etc. Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimPilot767 157 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Thank you for your fast answer! I´m looking forward to fly this baby! Timo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop 1 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Although I hate to discuss the Airsimmer bus again, but I noticed that the it does not support any form of time compression. Any idea whether the Aerosoft bus will support time compression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassis 1 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I would like to really thank you guys at Aerosoft for being such profesionals and respect us (the customers) so well..... even in this economic hard times, you have so many companies that remains product centrickeeping the customer apart.. Did I say Airsimmer ? he he they just get what they deserve... LONG LIVE AEROSOFT !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AngelsAndAirwaves Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 end of the week, how about some new screens?? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicCrab 7 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 end of the week, how about some new screens?? :) Yes lets see a livery or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalfsx 2 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Im gonna buy this bus as a christmas present for myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmiloZ 24 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Im gonna buy this bus as a christmas present for myself Me damm too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmiloZ 24 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Btw guys, will you make a livery for the Airbus? And please come up with some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimPilot767 157 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Hello Finn and Mathijs, can you already make a statement regarding the expectable frames-per-second? Will this bus be comparable to any default or addon-aircraft ? Timo PS: If you need a beta-tester with a 3-years old middle-class PC, i´m yours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss 128 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hello all, I have a few Airbuses from other developers and I have come across a common problem with them all, indeed it maybe an FSX bug or even the way I fly so if anybody can advise then please do so. The problem is flying the ILS approach, I like to disengage the autopilot 1000 feet AGL, and hand fly down to the runway, the aircraft holds the pitch very well untill reaching about 500 AGL and then it feels like the aircraft pitches up over the glideslope making correction with the side stick nearly impossible, infact the only way to correct this is by using the thrust lever to pitch the nose down again. The computed VAPP speed by the FMGC is used on approach and in fact if I use autopilot all the way down to minimums there isnt a problem its just when I hand fly (with the autothrust engaged) from a 1000 feet or above this problem reveals itself. My friend is an Airbus pilot (we both share the rent on a Cessna) and he has told me you best fly the Airbus with as little imput to the sidestick as possible and also in most cases with the thrust lever in the CL gate untill you retard on the runway, so to really pushdown on the sidestick or take the thrust levers out of the CL gate and manually control the pitch in this way goes against how the Airbus handles the approach. If Aerosoft is at BETA testing stage can one of the BETA testers try and hand fly the approach from 1000 AGL and see what the outcome is please? Like I said it maybe an FSX thing as Ive said before, the default jets in FSX sometimes has this problem but because they are not 'fly by wire' its actually easier to control because you are manually controlling the pitch and thrust anyway. Hope this helps in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimPilot767 157 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hello Kwiss, just a thought: Did you configure the ZFWCG on the second INIT-Page? Maybe it´s a weight-and-balance-problem?! Your FBW overrides the wrong center of gravity, but as it switches to direct-law prior to landing you have a sudden nose-up or nose-down tendency... I did not have any problems with addon-aircraft, but a similar problem with the default A321. And as you can´t change the CG of the default aircrafts, i had to increase the weight in the rear compartments of the airbus to get a correct CG. Regards, Timo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss 128 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hello Kwiss, just a thought: Did you configure the ZFWCG on the second INIT-Page? Maybe it´s a weight-and-balance-problem?! Your FBW overrides the wrong center of gravity, but as it switches to direct-law prior to landing you have a sudden nose-up or nose-down tendency... I did not have any problems with addon-aircraft, but a similar problem with the default A321. And as you can´t change the CG of the default aircrafts, i had to increase the weight in the rear compartments of the airbus to get a correct CG. Regards, Timo I see what you are saying Timo, Ill try it, infact flying from Leeds/Bradford UK to Perpignan France in the Wilco 321 as I write, almost half way there (can't access the INIT page as you know, so Ill try it on the way back). I do have a simlar problem with FSX 737 and CRJ. I maybe wrong but I thought direct law switched in at minimums? If thats the case it maybe a problem for the casual user? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmiloZ 24 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hello Finn and Mathijs, can you already make a statement regarding the expectable frames-per-second? Will this bus be comparable to any default or addon-aircraft ? Timo PS: If you need a beta-tester with a 3-years old middle-class PC, i´m yours... I'd like to test too. My sys: ASUS Maximus III Formular Intel i7 860 2.8GHz Nividia 275 GTX 1GB 4GB DDR3 Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimPilot767 157 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I see what you are saying Timo, Ill try it, infact flying from Leeds/Bradford UK to Perpignan France in the Wilco 321 as I write, almost half way there (can't access the INIT page as you know, so Ill try it on the way back). I do have a simlar problem with FSX 737 and CRJ. I maybe wrong but I thought direct law switched in at minimums? If thats the case it maybe a problem for the casual user? I have to correct myself. The airbus switches from "flight mode" to "flare mode" at 100 feet radio altitude in normal law. This has nothing to do with the minimum altitude. I think this is just the decision altitude for a go-around. The real direct-law just comes up if there are severe failures. Cactus 1549 landed in the hudson in direct-law. But OK, if you have the same problem with the 737 and CRJ, i don´t think that´s an airbus-related problem. Maybe a misaligned trim-wheel on your joystick? Or try a manually set Vapp about 5-10 kts above the computed one. (I had similar problems with the Vapp in the Wilco A320) Or maybe you are simply too heavy for landing? Maybe it isn´t that easy.... Regards, Timo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss 128 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I have to correct myself. The airbus switches from "flight mode" to "flare mode" at 100 feet radio altitude in normal law. This has nothing to do with the minimum altitude. I think this is just the decision altitude for a go-around. The real direct-law just comes up if there are severe failures. Cactus 1549 landed in the hudson in direct-law. But OK, if you have the same problem with the 737 and CRJ, i don´t think that´s an airbus-related problem. Maybe a misaligned trim-wheel on your joystick? Or try a manually set Vapp about 5-10 kts above the computed one. (I had similar problems with the Vapp in the Wilco A320) Or maybe you are simply too heavy for landing? Maybe it isn´t that easy.... Regards, Timo Thanks Timo Ill have a play around, certain its not hardware related, Ive heard other simmers with similar problems so Ill dig a little deeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicCrab 7 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Just noticed this but in one of the preview shots,. "life vest" is spelled wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiss 128 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Just noticed this but in one of the preview shots,. "life vest" is spelled wrong. Well spotted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AngelsAndAirwaves Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 some new screens pls! =)... will the bus ready before christmas´? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Aerosoft Share Posted November 24, 2009 some new screens pls! =)... will the bus ready before christmas´? We got a problem with planning as one of the main persons (Scott Printz) is in hospital after a car accident. Progress on all other parts is good but without knowing when the displays are completed it is hard to say. We got one other problem as well. In our photoshoot we forgot to make good images if the structure/mechanism that extends the flaps. Its a bit complex to do a new shoot just for this. Is there anybody who's got images or diagrams? I trolled the net a bit but there is nothing really helpful easy to find. Ideally we need images from behind and below (not from above). Free products for those that can help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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