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[Mathijs Kok]

Agreed. Recently gone back onto Helicopters after buying the Dodosim 206 and nearly all the Nemeth birds for FSX, I'd be very interested in this if the flight dynamics were good. At the moment it's a toss up between this and the Dodo Huey. If this comes out first you'll have my custom for sure.

Tony

We'll stay around 25 Euro (plus EEC VAT when applicable) so perhaps you might even decide to get both. I am sure they will both have very good aspects.

[NH90]

We'll stay around 25 Euro (plus EEC VAT when applicable) so perhaps you might even decide to get both. I am sure they will both have very good aspects.

bring it out now, i buy it

[J.Schweigler]

even without sounds and flight dynamics?

No, better wait until everything is finished ;-)

[NH90]

OK, aber lange warte ich nicht mehr

OK, but long I will not wait

[J.Schweigler]

Was bleibt dir über?

Honestly, release shouldn't be that far away. We only do not have a specific releasedate

[Herman]

Indeed very nice. thought about it several times but:

Huey skids ARE very solid. I doubt that they "flex" noticeable and I am not sure about "gear compression" on skid contact points. I remember almost 100% that this is not possible (we tried something with the flexing wings of the discus wich have skids)

Bests Joachim

If by "solid" you mean they have zero deflection under normal operations, I disagree, based on personal experience as a UH-1H crew chief in Viet Nam. From my vantage point in the "well" (alongside the transmission facing out and behind an M-60), there was visible outwards latereal motion as the weight of the helo was transfered from the rotor disk to the skids. Granted, that flex was all in the cross tubes, but the point is that the skids as a whole assembly were not completely rigid. Another way you could see it was when we'd hoist the entire helo with a 5 ton wrecker (big tow truck) to perform maintenance on the cross tubes, saddle straps (what holds the cross tubes in place) or replace a bent skid. I no longer remember the difference between dimentions with the ship suspended and when the full weight was on the skids, but it was easily measurable. Indeed, the maintenance manual (US Army TM 55-1520-210-20 - the organizational maintenance manual) contained skid-to-skid maximum dimention limitations to acount for hard landings and the resultant permanant deformation of the cross tubes.

That said, I honestly can't see a reason to program this motion into the sim. I'm simply trying to point out that the landing gear (after all, that's what it is) is not a perfectly rigid structure.

As an aside, while I no longer have my -20 maintenance manual handy, I still have a vintage (May 1969) TM 55-1520-210-10 Operator's Manual for the UH-1H. I assume you have access to one considering the masterful modeling you've done, but if a loan of several months would be of use (check lists, color performance charts, etc), just PM me and I'd be happy to get it into your hands. I'm really looking forward to flying an old friend.

[J.Schweigler]

Thank you Herman, of course there is a slight movement, but I would say not noticeable fromthe outside view. And with this not worth the trouble we get into, if we consider doing this. One time more we must say FSX is to stupid for it. At least under normal conditions.

I had an idea for this but only for choppers with better flexing skids, nobody would notice in the Huey.

Cheers Joachim

[Tigerclaw]

We'll stay around 25 Euro (plus EEC VAT when applicable) so perhaps you might even decide to get both. I am sure they will both have very good aspects.

Naw stuff the Dodo, I'll buy yours Got major problems with SWREG at the moment, charging a different amount to the amount they said was to be paid.

NEVER had those problems here at Aerosoft so I'll buy yours when it comes out. I read every single post here over the last couple of days and someone recommended the Cera 412. I bought that one and it is very nice. One thing I noticed though, and I'm not sure if this was in any posts (memory like a fish), the Cera didn't do a version with Floats! Will your version have floats? I only ask because of the Maldives X scenery I bought. It would nice to fly this bird round the Maldives and be able to land at the water airports. Doesn't matter if it wont have floats, because you can land on the islands anyway.

Tony

[J.Schweigler]

Floats are ugly

No decision on this yet.

Cheers

[Bruce Hamilton]

Floats are ugly

When you come right down to it, so are Hueys.
Floats would be nice on a Jet Ranger with a Maldives Air Taxi paint scheme, but I can't picture them on a Huey.

[J.Schweigler]

I looked out of my VC this night and found this pushback trucks in my searchlightcone.

[NH90]

The Huey with floats? baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[Mathijs Kok]

Naw stuff the Dodo, I'll buy yours Got major problems with SWREG at the moment, charging a different amount to the amount they said was to be paid.

NEVER had those problems here at Aerosoft so I'll buy yours when it comes out. I read every single post here over the last couple of days and someone recommended the Cera 412. I bought that one and it is very nice. One thing I noticed though, and I'm not sure if this was in any posts (memory like a fish), the Cera didn't do a version with Floats! Will your version have floats? I only ask because of the Maldives X scenery I bought. It would nice to fly this bird round the Maldives and be able to land at the water airports. Doesn't matter if it wont have floats, because you can land on the islands anyway.

Tony

Let's not use this forum to speak bad about others right? (or in other words do not follow my bad lead).

[J.Schweigler]

What about real search and landing lights? Look at the object lighting

of course they must be tuned, to look a bit better, this is the first test

[J.Schweigler]

[Lennart B.]

Those lights are definitely interesting! Should add a lot to the atmosphere!

[SimPilot767]

An interesting aspect of your lights would be the illumination
of clouds,snow and rain when flying/approaching in really bad weather.
This would give a real IFR-feeling...
Did you test this yet in any way?


Regards,

Timo

[J.Schweigler]

The actually do light rain. In fact the light more, than we want at the moment, but let us try how far we can go.

[Tigerclaw]

Let's not use this forum to speak bad about others right? (or in other words do not follow my bad lead).

Fair comment Mathijs, won't happen again



The lights look pretty good J.Schweigler, that would be very cool.

I've got the Dodo 206 with floats, and yeah it looks okay, but I've seen a Huey with "emergency" floats (like inflatable airbags you toggle on and off), and I thought that would be handy that's all Not really fussed though, you're the developer and you do what ever you think is best. Then I'll do my best to keep it in one piece the right side up

[NH90]

the light shots are a hammer, Wahnsinn I´m going crazy <BR><BR>Fair and true comment Mathijs

[NH90]

I think the yellow/black warning arrows at the inside of the doors looks a little bit to unused (new). Feels better they looks "used"

[J.Schweigler]

Guys, we really have to reinvent the wheel.
The light technique we use is that strong, that it illuminates everything. You can place your bird in the space, and light down to the earth and whohaaa, YOU are the sun! really it is an awesome light. But not real

So we have to limit it in distance. We are working on this at the moment and I think we got pretty good results now. FSX is so damn limited, that we must simply accept some things, but more on this later if we are 100% sure, what can be done and what can't.

But look at the screen below. You see it looks pretty real, and it even lights snow and so on. You really should see it in action.

Bests Joachim

[Skwinty]

But look at the screen below. You see it looks pretty real, and it even lights snow and so on. You really should see it in action.

Bests Joachim

Thats pretty realistic. Very cool.
Cant wait to test fly this helicopter.
Regards
Steve

[Tigerclaw]

You really should see it in action.

Bests Joachim

I intend to, as soon as I see it released I'm a gonna test it to death

Can you imagine using this in the Maldives at night? That would be Sooooooo cool. I think I'll go fishing from 200 feet

[Cideg]

Hello together

I finds the work shown here as a very good connection to the reality.

The represented looks for more and pictures make it to tides like one.

I still hope for it be able to she publish the Paywareversion perhaps this weekend. I will not miss to purchase the machine.

yours sincerely

Cideg

[JamesChams]

...The light technique we use is that strong, that it illuminates everything. You can place your bird in the space, and light down to the earth and whohaaa, YOU are the sun! really it is an awesome light. But not real

So we have to limit it in distance. We are working on this at the moment and I think we got pretty good results now. ...
But look at the screen below. You see it looks pretty real, and it even lights snow and so on. You really should see it in action.

Bests Joachim

Mr. Joachim Schweigler,

That "Lotus Style" exterior lighting looks amazing on the Huey; can you also make/add a brightness interior lighting for the VC (make it variable)? It is variable in the actual cockpit and is turned up when needed and lowered during flight for better exterior visibility at night.

Thanks!

[J.Schweigler]

No there will be no dimable lights but you can switch on backlight (green or white, depending on model) and domelight green and white (green as an option) So in the military variant you have various lights in the cockpit you can choose from. only green backlighting, green backlighting and green dome lights, green backlighting and white domelights, no light. There is something for everyone

[NH90]

Hi, at the last awesome screenie I saw that the part left and right (top, over the foot windows) from the panel is transparancy. Is it a view failure or a texture problem?

Here a pic from Heliport.de

[J.Schweigler]

Sorry, I don't know what you mean. But there is no transparency or texture problem at the moment, at least no, you should know about, lol

Joachim

[J.Schweigler]

Pleasenote, that this is work in progress.

[NH90]

Pleasenote, that this is work in progress.

Alter Schwede, was baut Ihr denn da, die Dodohuey hat jetzt echte Konkurrenz - Hammer

[NH90]

Here I go again.

Questions from the hovercontrol members:

Does the Huey run in FS9?
Does the Huey run with FSX Acceleration Pack?

J.Schweiger answer please

[Nick C]

Here I go again.

Questions from the hovercontrol members:

Does the Huey run in FS9?
Does the Huey run with FSX Acceleration Pack?

J.Schweiger answer please

I think I can answer right away.

FS9 - No
Acceleration -Yes

[J.Schweigler]

Nick is right, nothing more to add.

[J.Schweigler]

Attached some night light screenshots of the german army version.


off


Green backlight


Green backlight and green dome lights


Green backlight and white dome lights


no backlight and white dome lights

You can choose what you need in flight and switch it.

[Stewart]

Some sort of easy flight mode for beginners to helo flying might be a good idea.

[J.Schweigler]

Some sort of easy flight mode for beginners to helo flying might be a good idea.

What is more easy than the FSX standard flight model?

[Stewart]

What is more easy than the FSX standard flight model?

Flight Sim has never been great at simulating Helo flight so I was suggesting that a simplified flight model that would make it easy to hold a precise hover and such be included to aid the newbies to helo flying. I remember when I first started flying helos it took quite a bit of getting used to. Then again, a lot of that was dependent on the realism settings.

[antoinebacker]

Flight Sim has never been great at simulating Helo flight so I was suggesting that a simplified flight model that would make it easy to hold a precise hover and such be included to aid the newbies to helo flying. I remember when I first started flying helos it took quite a bit of getting used to. Then again, a lot of that was dependent on the realism settings.

I flown a lot of the whirlybirds in FS and though FSX is better then the previous versions it still is not very realistic. HOWEVER, any attempt to make it more realistic have just pushed those models out of my competence level. I am more or less able to handle the 206 and the people who I fly with on occasion also seem to be able to handle that one. I would be happy if the flight model would be similar to what FSX offers (and what all but a few addon helicopters) use. For me it works.

Flying helicopters in a simulator is just very hard as it is very much a kind of piloting where your bum is a major instrument. I flown hundreds of hours in helicopters, never as pilot though, and in my opinion the limited level of possible simulation coupled with the modest skill level of most users and control hardware used by most users just works in the Bell 206. It feels and looks realistic enough to me. Making hovering even harder would kill the joy for me.

Spiffing looking model btw, congrats on that!

Antoine