PFPX Route Database

[dekela 0]

Dekel Amrani Nov 27, 15:25 CET Hi. It seems some of the routes in the data base are old and do not make sense. For Example: LLBG -- LCLK DepRwy 26 ArrRwy 22 The correct route is : MERV1H MERVA UB17 VELOX B17 BOSIS LCLK22 The Approach should be using ILS 22 with Transition through BOSIS which creates a DME ARC. The issues are: 1. Unable to select Transition in the Route Editor. 2. The default LLBGLCLK-MFC route is incorrect: MERV1H MERVA UP68 APLON UM32 PHA PHA1C How do PFPX updates the route DB? (I am aware of Waypoints updates when a new AIRAC is published.) Thanks Dekel

[Tom A320 4915]

You are being asked on every AIRAC cycle update if the stored routes should be updated (if possible).

 

Or you simply ignore the routes database and use PFPX for what it is there for: calculate routes for you

 

Personally I have never used any of the stored routes in the database. As a matter of fact I deleted them all. 

 

[srcooke 422]

PFPX does not automatically update the routes, it is for you to re-plan and save them.

 

34 minutes ago, dekela said:

The correct route is :
MERV1H MERVA UB17 VELOX B17 BOSIS LCLK22

 

That depends on date and time of departure, MERVA may not be available.

 

 

A1785/17 - BTN SUN-WED 2300-0700LT, THU 1700LT-SUN 0700LT
    SID CHANGED DEP FLTS FM LLBG MAY FILE FPL TO PSN MERVA
    ONWARD TO B17-VELOX/UP42-DESPO.
    FLTS VIA MERVA WILL BE CLR BY LLBG ATC TO SID PURLA2
    THENCE BY RADAR VECTORS TO MERVA AND ONWARDS.
    ISRAEL-AIP, PART ENR, PAGE ENR 5.1-2
    AIC 2/17 WEF 19 JUNE 2017, REF. DLY SUN-WED 2100-0500,THU-SUN 1500-0500,
15 NOV 21:00 2017 UNTIL 31 DEC 05:00 2017. CREATED: 15 NOV 10:22 2017

 

A1777/17 - PREFERENTIAL SID'S:
    WB: PURLA L53 SUVAS UL/L53 KAROL
    NW: PURLA P52 GITLA UW/W13A VELOX
    SW: PURLA P52 GITLA UW/W850 PASOS
    EB: SALAM DCT MOUAB
    SB: TOMAL J10
    AIP-ISRAEL, PART AD, PAGE 2.5-12B, 2.5-12C PARA 2.22 REF. 12 NOV 14:23 2017
UNTIL 31 DEC 21:59 2018. CREATED: 12 NOV 14:30 2017

 

 

 

PFPX does not implement approach transitions

 

 

 

 

 

[dekela 0]

I actually update the route DB every AIRAC cycle, but the DB it self is very old, If PFPX cannot give me a correct route and I need to create it myself then what is the point of the tool with regards to route planning?

 

On 12/28/2017 at 4:10 PM, srcooke said:

PFPX does not implement approach transitions

 

shame, For a tool at this caliber I would expect it will.

[srcooke 422]

PFPX is an advanced planning/scheduling/despatch tool.

 

You do not update the route database by installing the AIRAC data. 

 

PFPX can perform a check of the route database for AIRAC compliance and notify you of routes which no longer match the new cycle.

 

You can then re-plan as save them as required, either by manual or several automatic route finding options.

 

Does the approach transition form part of a flightplan ?

 

 

[Tom A320 4915]

16 minutes ago, dekela said:

If PFPX cannot give me a correct route and I need to create it myself then what is the point of the tool with regards to route planning?

 

PFPX is a route planner in the first place. The ability to store routes also in a database is just an additional feature. 

 

What would you do if you want to fly a route which is not ready stored in the database? Searching one online? 

 

That's exactly what PFPX is there for: planning routes. It doesn't matter if you have a route already in a database or not.

 

What if your previously stored route was only valid on Mondays before noon due to some constraints? By re-planning a route the moment you need it you will make sure that all constraints will be incorporated properly. 

 

Like in your above MERVA example.