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  1. Stefan Hoffmann

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Small friday update: FlapTrack Fairings are now completed too. Details on the trailing wing edge + spoiler details have been also added. Last part in that section are the hydraulic pipelines for the spoiler system. Then the closing touch will be the rivets/screws on the trail edge top access panel. Last thing to do then is here the slatsystem in detail, which will follow hopefully next week.
    52 Points
  2. Stefan Hoffmann

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Time for a small friday update: Work resides now on the detailing of the lower wing sections. Current focus is on the flap track fairings; the innermost got already some detail. Any rivet or drain hole also exists on the real plane. The wing was photographed meter for meter to cover any feature. Number and place of the details represents the real thing.
    44 Points
  3. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    It's rare that I correct The Dude... but I am doing it now because he did not know our plans changed today, lol. Our Airbus line-up for 2017 will be (actual names might change): Aerosoft Airbus A330 (2017 edition) Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319 (2017 edition) Aerosoft Airbus A320/A321 (2017 edition) Aerosoft Airbus Axxx (hopefully 2017 edition) We dropped the idea of doing something called SP4 because it made little sense. All our Airbus systems, from APU to FBW are redone and 'standardized' so it just needs a config file to make then suit the aircraft. It took us 6 years to learn what Airbus Industries learned a lot earlier, blame the project manager, not the developers. So we see all releases in 2017 as 'new' releases. But as before we will ONLY ask you to pay for the value of the new files and for this development (as for the CRJ development) you pay for the code and can decide yourself if you use it in FSX:SP2 / FSX:STEAM or P3D V3. One payment for all three sims. This also means that if you own the current busses you will get a discount when you buy the A330 for the simple reason it shares code with our current busses. The basic principle will remain that if you only pay for something one time. If it is on your disk it is yours. On as many computers as you want (as long as they are yours), No online activation that makes things hard for paying customers. We are not willing to comment on versions for X-Plane 11 or the new Dovetails simulator, But fact is that all our development is more and more 'standardized'. Most certainly the developments are aimed at a wider 'audience'. We sold many educational licenses of our Airbus developments and you might have seen the modeling in other simulators, advertisement and even in movies.
    25 Points
  4. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Yes I see that and to be honest I am rather jealous that other companies seem to be able to pull this off. See, certainly the companies who make the most complex add-ons see FS as the 'operating system' and use as little of it as possible. It's just what is needed to run their simulations. We see it a bit different as we sell aircraft, tools, scenery etc, for us it is more of 'an environment'. But when you upgrade from Win8 to Win10, your MS Office still works, your FSX still runs. And that is because it is intended to run the same code. Just as FSX and P3D, there are small differences and coders have to make slight adjustments, but 99.9% of FSX code will run fine in P3D. There are P3d options that FSX can't use but I have never seen these actually used in a commercial product. And if you just look at the files for products that are sold as separate for FSX and P3D you see that they are almost always simply the same. They might have a different checksum because of a different compiler (so have files compiled with the FSX:STEAM compiler) but if you have both the FSX and P3D version of such a product installed you can move the vast majority of files between the two sims without problems. Now when you are talking about a really different sim, like X-Plane or 64 bit versions of our beloved FS that are sure to be released at some time, things are different. Sounds and textures will probably be the same, the rest needs work. We don't know yet but that is a good guess. Perhaps only a recompile (minutes) perhaps more. We'll know soon. But to be honest, I seriously never understood how people are willing to pay twice for the same files. Cross update price, sure I see that, but full price for files you already have on your disk...
    24 Points
  5. Tom A320

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    <irony> No. This will only be available through a chargeable service pack, which will become available shortly after the release of the A330 for a reasonable prize. This service pack will also include the nose wheel, the pilot seat (co pilot seat is not needed, as only the job of the pilot is modeled), the windscreen wipers and the step by step guide. </irony>
    24 Points
  6. wdiekmann

    Piracy by Flight Sim Labs

    Hello, After reading this thread I decided to reply officially. About two weeks ago we found a small number of 3D objects in the update of the FSL Airbus. So we contacted Lefteris and found him really surprised. I talked to him on the phone as we didn't want to do anything without having talked and I found out that he didn't knew about it before we told him. So the files may be used by accident (honestly it was a mistake by comparing some objects between the two airbusses and some wrong objects were deleted) "The good coments were really a nice compliment to our 3D artist Stefan" ;-) We decided together not to make a big deal out of this and FSL has solved the problem with a new update."Shit happens" ;-) I am sure FSL doesn't need to use Aerosoft objects in an update because they have the capacity to do them by themself. So for everybody, for me this is no longer an issue. We have a good relationship to FSL since many year and no reason to change it. Btw.: I was surprised that this thread was opened anonymously. I don't like this kind a usage of forums because it is cowardly. I wish you and all our customers a contemplative Christmas season and a Happy New Year. Kind regards Winfried Diekmann Aerosoft, CEO
    24 Points
  7. SeifZahran

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Shit just happened
    20 Points
  8. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    We had to update one included livery as real life was faster then our development, lol. The next two weeks will be slow as Hans is in Austria working on a professional sim.
    20 Points
  9. Eduard Gasull

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    Forget the old one, This is my frank sinatra┬┤s jingle bells version to aerosoft, with video music singed by me XD SING IT! C-R-J, C-R-J in progress all the way, Oh what fun it is to ask a release date all the time, O C-R-J, C-R-J release is not a way, Oh what fun would be to ride this plane on F-S-X Dashing thru the plane DAVID seems john wayne Through the skies we go developing all the way. Bells on forums ring dislikes start to appear if you try to ask on here A release date once again. HEY Aerosoft, Aerosoft launch the C-R-J, Oh what fun it is to ask A release date all the time, O C-R-J, C-R-J In progress all the way, Oh what fun would be to ride this plane on F-S-X. A year or 8 ago... okey thats enough , MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AEROSOFT TEAM
    19 Points
  10. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    For the people requesting a sound set as if the crew had ANR headsets on: We decided not to make this work with a click zone in the VC because click zones are the bane of FPS. I think we never shown this screen btw, it does show you some of the many configuration options.
    19 Points
  11. darem

    Ready for Take-off (Stand alone game)

    Could you try to do normal boobs? Seriously. Those stereotypes are so yesteryear...
    18 Points
  12. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    Best comment of the week! Follow the snowflake and use the banana bar. And he follows up with: "On an arrival I will normally program a user point 5 miles on the same side as a fix to get a better vnav profile so I can slow down. Going to out stations build a point 30 miles out at 10k. " A sentence most of our customer will need to read three times to understand what is intended. But Ak47e6 is clearly a pilot who know what he is talking about because it DOES make a lot of sense. It is a very good way of using the limited systems. It's what a good pilot does, he squeezes out every bit of information the system can give him to check his own plan. Let me digress for a moment. Yesterday on our internal Friends of Aerosoft Skype group we had a conversation on how real flying on VatSim or IVAO is. On these services most pilots try to be near perfect and fly the STAR and APP to the last detail. A real pilot would NOT do so. He will always try to get on the ground as soon as possible. If there is no other traffic he will always try to get a straight in approach at the highest possible speed. Because of a previous project (some time ago) I almost weekly flew from Milan to Amsterdam that was scheduled to arrive 10 minutes before the airport closed. It was the last flight in or one of the last flights in. This was in MD80's and you know how slippery those are. The Alitalia crew tried to stay at cruise altitude as long as possible and deployed every possible drag device (flaps/spoilers/gear) to make what I refer to as a Screaming Jezus approach. Most of the trips I was in the jumpseat (this was a while ago and we were working on the Mad Dog project at the time, we had friends). I have been in the cockpit with a MD80 crew that was doing side slips at FL200 to loose altitude. I have been on the jumpseat while the approach controller made bets with them that they would never hit the ILS at 12 miles out. While things are a bit more formal these days every good pilot will ask for a cut off if he knows there is no other traffic. It save time and money. For the controllers if it okay because they want aircraft out of their sector or engines off at the terminal. It's like the VATSIM controller who asked me to fly heading 223 degrees recently. He was pissed off that I did not keep that heading exactly. I was on a Catalina with only a magnetic compass. I was more or less happy to stay between 200 and 240 degrees in the mild turbulence we had. Altitude was optional, lol. Simmers often take things way too serious. As a pilot it is your task to get from A to B safe and quick. A heck of a lot is okay to do so.
    18 Points
  13. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    41.30% But in some days it feels like 41.40%. Not 103,5125%, that's a rumor, lol.
    17 Points
  14. The Dude

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    After posting screenshots now and then I will also start with posting some video. Shadowplay with the 4K option makes it a lot easier to quickly post good quality video now. For the moment I will not do any voice over but I am thinking about doing some pre release tutorials. DISCLAIMER --- Be aware that this is all still beta and an work in progress. Sounds and VNAV are areas that are still being fine tuned (you may notice this in the video) . In this beta the boxing of EICAS messages is not fully implemented. I also do not follow SOP yet so please do not correct me on this If you see anything that you think is not correct (entirely possible) feel free to mention it here so we can take it under consideration. This first video is from the beginning of a flight I made yesterday starting in an C&D state. Make sure to select 4K in the settings!
    17 Points
  15. richcam427

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    16 Points
  16. FSL - Lefteris Kalamaras

    Piracy by Flight Sim Labs

    Hello, it was quite surprising for me to read some comments by anonymous sources accusing Flight Sim Labs of piracy. Everyone is quite aware that FSLabs and Aerosoft have enjoyed many years of prosperous and mutually enjoyed relationship and none of the competition some people have been so happy to imagine between us. Winfried called me a couple weeks ago to describe some findings by Stefan, their A320 series 3d modeler which found me and my team by surprise. After looking into the matter as we felt obliged to do, we discovered that some years ago, when we performed a side-by-side comparison of our model with theirs inside 3ds Max, a very small amount of of 3d polygons in the hundreds of thousands that exist in our VC were deleted in error (ours instead of theirs). Theirs remained behind. This went entirely undetected (both products are very accurate in depicting the Airbus cockpit) until Winfried alerted us about it. We both decided it was a small issue that would be rectified very quickly with an update - this has already happened by now and our product has once again the correct original objects in place (yes, yes, the tiller among a few others). I have apologized to Winfried (and Stefan) for the accident, he recognized this was entirely unintentional and the story ends there. I am, however, quite surprised that some people lacked the decency or strength to come out and alert us on this using their own names, but instead chose to hide behind the anonymity offered by the Internet. Winfried called it cowardly - I agree with him. Aerosoft and FSLabs are able to resolve matters internally by simply picking up the phone. We enjoy and will continue to enjoy a very amicable relationship - after all, it was in their conference that we even presented our A320-X in the first place and we are known to share a beer or three together when the opportunity lends itself. We wish you as well a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Kind regards, Lefteris Kalamaras Flight Sim Labs, Ltd.
    16 Points
  17. Ilya1998

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Well, I'm an aerospace engineering student myself and I don't think that we need a student discount. I just don't understand why I must have more privilege in buying the add-on than for example a retired pilot or even any other person. I definitely agree that some products like PMDG 777 are not something I can easily buy without thinking, but let's propose such an idea to PMDG than. Aerosoft products are already very reasonably priced for the amount of work that has been put in it, so I'm completely happy with their policy.
    15 Points
  18. Hans Hartmann

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    When is it going to be released? *runs away and seeks cover*
    14 Points
  19. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    I know a lot about it!
    14 Points
  20. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    I do see your point. But in our experience adding unexpected events in the sim overwhelms the vast majority of users. This year I did a presentation to VATSIM UK about realism and how it is a very difficult thing to achieve. To demonstrate the difference between simmers and real pilots I showed them this slide (please keep in mind this presentation was intended for an audience already drinking beer and that the young man shown is now flying commercially). I know that some other companies see their customers different. They believe their customers are as good as real pilots (or close to that). We disagree. We believe the few persons who actually get to fly airliners are professionals. For me flying sims is not a hobby but a job, P3D autostarts with windows on my machines. I have done over 200 hours on serious sims. I spend a whole night with a airkline crew of an airline I will not mention crew shooting KaiTak approaches (drinking sake shots after each successful attempt, first to miss pays for the drinks). So I know my way around a sim. But I know that when the workload gets high I am useless. I know that even two very minor problems in succession will make me a hazard. I am simply not trained. I am a hobbyist even though it is my job. Want another example? There are over 1500 videos on YT featuring our Airbusses. Some are rather silly but most are pretty serious. But as far as I and my advisory pilots can see there is not a single one that that would satisfy a instructor on a checkride. None. In fact we have never seen any hobby vid on YT that would do. Flying airliners is a damned hard job, one of the hardest possible. Officially? Officially we got no plans for that right now. Who will know what happens. Basically we do whatever customers want because we need to make money!
    13 Points
  21. Tom A320

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    Merry Christmas to you, too.
    13 Points
  22. Fangtooth

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    This is why I love Aerosoft! I don't have to pay twice for the same files....our passion for flight simulation is expensive enough
    12 Points
  23. julien_Blue

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    12 Points
  24. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    After the CRJ.... Ball in your corner again.
    12 Points
  25. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    We really try to keep our own products reasonably priced but there are limits to what is possible. I can only say that the $100 price level is one we do not feel comfortable with. For sure there is a market for that, but not our market. So the A330 will have roughly the same price as the A320. We did look at differentiating prices for countries but it's very hard to do and even harder to prevent everybody using an SVN and getting the cheapest possible version. What we might be ablt to do in 2017 is offer discounts for students. That's something we feel might be a great way to assist.
    12 Points
  26. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    But we still do not model things that a pilot is not likely to encounter day to day. So no APU fire (has never happened on an Airbus) or full loss of propulsion (happened one time in over 20.000.000 hours). We model flying the aircraft, not training rides on a sim. We do simulate the co-pilot that is always there! We have that in the form of the semi automated checklists and the Shared Cockpit technology. Keep in mind flying an airliner on your own is inherently wrong and even forbidden in all countries. We focus on other things then some of our competitors but we feel that Shared Cockpit is a far bigger step to realism then having 120 ECAM messages in the code that have NEVER been shown in reality. We simulate flying.
    12 Points
  27. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Just to give a quick update. We 'wasted' a whole load of time prepping the current busses for a release on STEAM (as add-on aircraft can't be in the simmodels folder all paths needed to be redone) but that's behind us now. It's been delivered to Dovetails for a release. Tomorrow I'm having a biggish progress meeting with the development team where we are going to discuss a release schedule for the first time. So progress is being made (and will be made in the next few weeks because none of the devs is taking any serious time off).
    12 Points
  28. MK-Studios

    Naples Capodichino 2016

    Ok, time to show you something.
    11 Points
  29. Emanuel Hagen

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    The difference between the 717 and the CRJ is less what kind or amount of bugs you intent to have on release (rather: are able to accept upon release), but more the approach how it will be released. TFDi are, as far as I know, the first and only devs who made a big FS release according to schedule. They have my respect for that! I know Collin a little from business and he's a good guy and an excellent developer! The difference between the 717 and the CRJ is more the way you descide to release the proudct. TFDi was willing to keep some features out in order to have the plane released at the time they promised a release - and they kept their promise, however at the cost of reduced features on release. With the CRJ we are not going this way, we want everything to be included. Of course it won't be bugfree, no product ever is, we are trying to iron out as many as possible in first place though. It's a different approach, some people prefer the one way, others the other. If you look in the TFDi forums you'll see that there are many happy people, but also some not so happy ones with the way they went. You see the same here in our forums, there are many of you happy about the CRJ being polished and some unhappy ones who'd rather see many updates after release and have the plane early. Both ways are fine, as a developer you just need to descide which way you want to go.
    11 Points
  30. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    As the files get completed we can also complete the manuals. Vol 1 might need a few tweaks but the features are described now. Vol1_AOM_Part-1_100.pdf
    11 Points
  31. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Well that video is a very good example, cause that is most certainly not how it should sound. Probably a smartphone video where the microphone designed to pick up your speech from 5 cm distance had to record the complete video sound. Also keep in mind that a sound recording does not pick up vibrations that humans interpret as sound. In the end we think we got a fine sound set that is a good cross between what customers expect and what is real.
    11 Points
  32. DaveCT2003

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    I agree with this! Our hobby is so tremendously diverse, with many doors to open! Some of those doors will not only lead to a better/enhanced experience flying the A330, but a better (even exiting) overall experience in flight sim! Just a few examples: 1. If you don't fly on VATSIM or IVAO, you can take this time to learn how (and if we get 6 or more people, I'll be happy to hold classes on flying online in a realism based environment, flight planning, communications - the works!). There simply is not better, more realistic way of flying than online! If you're not convinced, then at least give me a chance to convince you! 2. Flying Shared Cockpit (Connected Flight Deck). The A330 will be the very first long haul, wide body aircraft for flight sim that has Shared Cockpit capability. If you've not flown shared cockpit then you'll be in for a very special, even incredible experience! The human interaction and team work make for exciting times and building some terrific memories. Fly shared cockpit on VATSIM or IVAO and you'll reach an incredible level of flight simulation! I still remember the first event I flew online in shared cockpit - it was absolutely amazing. It's even better when you can fly with a good friend! There are several shared cockpit groups where one can find someone to fly with. While waiting for the A330, why not take the time to work on your Crew Resource Management (team work between the left and right seat) in the A318/A319/A320/A321 while enjoying this amazing feature that Aerosoft provided us with! 3. Join a group or Virtual Airline! There are many terrific groups and VAs in our hobby offering everything from learning more about flight sim to performing group flights and events! I come across people all the time who have been stuck flying at their computer alone, not being aware of just how many other things there are for us to experience! The best part is the interaction with people who share the love of this incredible hobby! My very best to everyone!
    10 Points
  33. Mathijs Kok

    Madeira Evolution

    !
    10 Points
  34. DaveCT2003

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Jasper, Third time you've asked if there is a release date in this past 8 months. The answer is the same answer the other times you asked. You know, there really is not need to ask, Aerosoft won't keep it a secret when the product is ready - and every flight sim website (and possibly international and local news...) will be touting the release!
    10 Points
  35. John Glanville

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    If a student would qualify for a discount , then we ALL qualify as Mathijs has already stated ( regarding which version of P3D you should / could buy ) that " We are all students ... In the University of Life " . On the other hand why exactly should a student qualify ? Why not other " groups in the community " such as the unemployed , the homeless , red headed . left handed or guys without a girlfriend ( or girls without a boyfriend ) ? How would anyone " prove " they are a student or anyone from Aerosoft be able to verify this as even Lockheed Martin are able to do so . It has already been said that a discount would ( probably ) be available for owners of the latest version of the Bus , now because it might cost more people want a further reduction in the price . Maybe not requesting all these extra functions would have kept the price lower ( and the release date sooner ) , something to reflect on when the next project is announced for the " customers " here .
    10 Points
  36. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    It's weeks away. And yes, I know we said that before. Google is your friend and I have never hidden we did those things very wrong.
    10 Points
  37. ICAO: EGCC NAME: Manchester Extreme V2 TYPE: Payware new version FS: FS9, FSX, P3D DESIGNER: UK2000 LINK: Scheduled release 14-1-2017 AES 2.45
    9 Points
  38. Hans Hartmann

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    Isn't it already available on your google drive?
    9 Points
  39. Alexpdv

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    You mean these experts, don't you?!? We can be confident then!!
    9 Points
  40. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    Let me give you an example... Yesterday I spend 5 hours checking the manual and functionality of the electrical system. And in the CRJ that's not a real complex system. All worked as it should just small issues like a EICAM text that should disappear after 3 seconds and it's now 10 seconds and some other messages that should be white and not amber. But that all has to be sorted out and tested again. Any developer knows closing a project is always the hardest part!
    9 Points
  41. richcam427

    Aerosoft (DA) CRJ Preview

    Sorry, I had to.
    8 Points
  42. eltechron

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    CNN maybe?
    8 Points
  43. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Always at the same time. We really do not understand why other companies see those as different platforms.
    8 Points
  44. Jeroen Doorman

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Really? How dissapointing will it have wingflex on release?
    8 Points
  45. MK-Studios

    Naples Capodichino 2016

    LIRN is going pretty well. We're finalizing our work with airport buildings. Still need to finish ground polygons and city objects. Surroundings looking good so far.
    8 Points
  46. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    I realize it will be hard to check the validity of who is a student and no matter how it will be done it will never be foolproof. But we also offer 20% discount to VA pilots and that's also a scheme that could be abused. We have not seen any of that though. If a user wants to photoshop a student card that looks good enough for my support staff to accept it, let him do so. It's a lot of work for a few dollars. In my experience people who buy FS add-ons are normally pretty decent folks.
    8 Points
  47. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Keep in mind that adding a new type or a new engine means doing the modeling, coding, new flight models, weeks to testing etc. We are talking many thousands of Euro's for that. It's for good reasons that FSL decided to model just one single airframe. And they even decided to do one with rather outdated software that lacks a lot of the features that airlines like Air France, Lufthansa etc etc are using as standard. That allowed them to go seriously deep in the systems, but it locks the users into that specific aircraft. We try to cover the majority of flying aircraft. That's why we got over 1000 repaints available. It's a different approach. The customer decides what suits him best.
    8 Points
  48. julien_Blue

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    #define MORE_COMPLEX >9000 ok dat joke was bad...
    8 Points
  49. Mathijs Kok

    Aerosoft A330 preview

    Our bus line-up will be most likely called: Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319 (2017 edition) Aerosoft Airbus A320/A321 (2017 edition) Aerosoft Airbus A330 (2017 edition) It's hard to find good names for a fourth edition. But as always, one price for all sims and a decent update price if you got previous versions. No nonsense like paying again for a P3d version if you have the FSX version. That is a very wide margin, lol. As Project manager I like a date and a time, lol.
    8 Points
  50. Mathijs Kok

    Piracy by Flight Sim Labs

    I am sorry you find me petty Norman. It seems however you did not take a few moment to actually read the post that started this all because there ARE no emails quoted between Aerosoft and FSL as you suggest. Now what I wrote here just now is exactly the same as we wrote to Arnoud, I just added the fact that I confirm it was indeed what we send. If you find that petty I am not sure why. The fact we will not comment is a decision the company made, as is not unusual in the kind of events. Why don't you read the starting post again and then make up your mind what is going on.
    8 Points